Chinese semiconductor thread II

lc_survivor

Just Hatched
Registered Member
dongfanghong tech (from Hong Kong) announced it is getting its new AI or high end computing chip fabb'd at SMIC's 7nm process

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

looks real from their website

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
Their english name is Hong Kong Technology

This is the announcement


I'd imagine more of the AI startups will be banging the doors of SMIC to get the chip fabb'd.
The company's website looks suspicious. They have an iOS app that is by invitation only and from the app store screeshot they are selling finance packages of 1000 RMB, 2000 RMB etc.

The company also stated in the same announcement that to celeberate the launch of this "new AI chip" the company will be giving each registered user 10 chicken eggs and other gifts including oil rice and flour. These type gifts seems a bit unusal for a high tech company. The announcment also talks about commissions paid to existing members for introducing new members etc.

In the linked Sohu article, it stated the company's person in charge is Robert Andrew Collins and I cannot find any specific information online about this person.
 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
Registered Member

Beijing to build 12-inch wafer fab with total investment of 33 billion yuan​


Recently, Beijing Electronic Control announced that it will build a 12-inch wafer fab in Yizhuang, with a total investment of 33 billion yuan and a planned production capacity of 50,000 wafers per month. It is expected that the plant construction will be completed and the equipment will be moved in in the fourth quarter of 2025, and mass production will be achieved by the end of 2026. The planned investments from 2024 to 2026 are 6 billion yuan, 9.6 billion yuan and 8.8 billion yuan respectively.

Construction Permit The project aims to enhance Beijing Electronic Control's competitiveness in the semiconductor field and accelerate the independent production capacity of domestic high-end chips. With the continuous growth of global semiconductor market demand, especially the increasingly urgent demand for high-performance, low-power chips, this move by Beijing Electronic Control will help ease the tight supply of domestic chips and promote the improvement and development of my country's semiconductor industry chain.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
Registered Member

The Qingdao Municipal Party Committee inspected and supervised the construction project of the main base of Sirui Intelligent​


The Semiconductor Advanced Equipment R&D and Manufacturing Center project, jointly built by SIRUI Intelligent and Qingdao Urban Investment Group, is a major project of Shandong Province and a key project of Qingdao City in 2024. The project plans to build high-end equipment manufacturing production lines such as atomic layer deposition (ALD) and ion implantation (IMP) . The project is expected to be officially put into use at the end of June 2025. After the project is completed, SIRUI Intelligent will use it as a basis to build a global R&D and manufacturing base to accelerate the development of the "ALD+IMP" dual-core semiconductor equipment industry.

1731942921481.png

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
Registered Member

China Micro Semiconductor: Etching continues to increase, thin film starts to increase volume​


ICP has started to increase volume and is moving towards full process coverage. In 2020-2023, etching equipment achieved revenue of 1.29/2.00/3.15/4.70 billion yuan, respectively, with an average annual revenue growth of more than 50%. In 24H1, the revenue of etching equipment was 2.698 billion yuan, a year-on-year increase of 56.68%, accounting for 78.26% of the revenue. The company's plasma etching equipment has been used in batches in domestic and foreign first-line customers from 65 nanometers to 14 nanometers, 7 nanometers and 5 nanometers and more advanced integrated circuit processing and manufacturing production lines and advanced packaging production lines. The new shipments of high-end products for key etching processes in the manufacture of advanced logic and memory devices have increased significantly, and the sales growth of CCP and ICP etching equipment and the market share of chip production lines of major domestic customers have increased significantly. In 24H1, new orders for etching equipment were 3.94 billion yuan, a year-on-year increase of 50.7%, of which ICP started to increase volume. In terms of process coverage, ultra-high aspect ratio masks, ultra-high aspect ratio dielectric etching, wafer edge Bevel etching, etc. are progressing smoothly.

Thin film equipment has started to increase in volume, and etching + thin film + quantity detection covers a total of about 33% of integrated circuit equipment. In the first half of 24th, LPCVD received new orders of 168 million yuan, and new products began to be launched. In terms of thin film deposition equipment research and development, the company currently has a number of new equipment products entering the market, some of which have received repeat orders, and several other key thin film deposition equipment research and development projects are progressing smoothly. The company's tungsten series of thin film deposition products can cover all tungsten applications for storage devices, and has completed the verification of CVD/HAR/ALD W tungsten equipment by multiple logic and storage customers, and has obtained customer orders. The company's EPI equipment has successfully entered the customer verification stage to meet the electrical and reliability requirements of the germanium silicon epitaxial growth process in customers' advanced processes. The company has invested in the layout of the optical detection equipment sector and plans to develop electron beam detection equipment, and will continue to expand the coverage of a variety of detection equipment.
 

tphuang

Lieutenant General
Staff member
Super Moderator
VIP Professional
Registered Member
Domestic DRAM capacity overflows overseas, Korean industry is rumored to be reducing DDR4 capacity supply
2024/11/18

Domestic DRAM industry capacity has expanded significantly, expanding from the domestic market to the overseas market, resulting in intensified industry competition.

Domestic DRAM capacity has been increased in large quantities, and consumer DDR4 is the first to bear the brunt. Oversupply will lead to intensified price competition. Not only Changxin Storage is actively expanding production, but Fujian Jinhua, which was once sanctioned by the United States, has also moved towards DDR4 mass production.

Taiwanese memory module industry revealed that the current domestic memory factory DDR4 quotation is 5% cheaper than the second-hand goods circulating on the market, and the price is almost half the price of the three major international DRAM companies. Under domestic low-price competition, the two major Korean industry companies are rumored to reduce their DDR4 capacity and are forced to accelerate development towards high-end applications.

Although Trump's new policy has not yet been implemented, it has already brought a high degree of uncertainty to the domestic semiconductor industry. The industry pointed out that domestic memory manufacturers are actively seeking overseas outlets recently. Although domestic DRAM is not included in the official US blacklist restrictions, it still tries to avoid exporting to the United States, Europe and other regions.

It is understood that domestic manufacturers hope to enter the huge Indian market through Taiwanese manufacturers in a roundabout way, mainly considering the relatively tense atmosphere between China and India. If they can use the brand awareness of Taiwanese manufacturers, they will be able to dilute the sensitive color of the red supply chain.

Industry insiders revealed that domestic memory manufacturers took the initiative to come to the door, hoping to expand their overseas production tentacles as much as possible before the handover of the new and old US governments. Now DDR4 production capacity supply is no longer a problem, and the production capacity of domestic DRAM manufacturers has increased significantly, and the chaos of oversupply in the market has emerged.

Due to the continuous dumping of a large number of DDR4 chips in the domestic market in recent months, and the resale of a large number of second-hand DDR4 products disassembled from server applications, now that domestic DRAM manufacturers have joined the war, the price of DDR4 has fallen in a bloodbath.

In terms of the price of DDR4 disassembled boards, it used to be about 70% to 80% of the quotes of international manufacturers. However, since the second half of 2024, the market price competition has intensified, and it has now dropped to 50% to 60% of the original factory quotes. The prices released by domestic DRAM manufacturers recently are more flexible, which will be about 5% cheaper than the price of disassembled boards, reflecting that the pressure on each company to clear its DDR4 inventory has been extremely severe.

Recently, the Hefei plant of Changxin Storage, a representative domestic DRAM manufacturer, reported that due to human negligence, about 65,000 wafers had to be scrapped. In the case of failure to deliver on time, Changxin Storage issued an internal announcement, including the plant director, deputy plant director, and the head of the operation center. Many senior executives were punished. The industry believes that it may be caused by improper management of mask versions when switching equipment.

However, according to the plan, Changxin Storage's overall DRAM production capacity has grown from 70,000 pieces per month in 2022 to 200,000 pieces per month in 2024. The Hefei 2 plant and the Beijing plant will be expanded successively, and the total production capacity will reach 300,000 pieces in the future. It is estimated that the production capacity will account for 11% of the global DRAM market in 2024. Through production expansion and technology upgrades, Changxin Storage has become one of the top four DRAM manufacturers in the world.

As for Fujian Jinhua, which was once suspended due to US sanctions, it is reported that under the leadership of Huawei, it has become the best example of the transformation of domestic semiconductor companies. At present, Fujian Jinhua's DRAM production capacity continues to increase, and the DDR4 8Gb 3200 specification has become the main mass production. Although Jinhua has not disclosed the scale of mass production, it is estimated that the monthly production capacity will reach about 100,000 pieces by the end of 2024, and it is expected to expand to 120,000 pieces in 2025.

According to current market research, the spot market price of DDR4 8Gb chips is about $1.13, but the price quoted by domestic memory manufacturers can be between $0.75 and $1.0.

The memory supply chain said that driven by domestic government policy subsidies and localization policies, domestic DRAM manufacturers are not afraid of losing money at all, and local memory module manufacturers are willing to adopt localization. Manufacturers such as Longsys, BIWIN, and TWSC are considered to be the first echelon. With the assist power of domestic memory production capacity, they are expected to gain price and cost advantages in the consumer market.

Transcend Chairman Shu Chongwan said recently that the substantial expansion of domestic DRAM production capacity has indeed brought oversupply pressure to the market. Although industrial control customers will hardly use domestic DRAM at present, the impact on consumer products will be more obvious. Now Transcend's industrial control product revenue accounts for about 60%, but in order to maintain a fixed purchase scale from the original factory, the consumer market cannot be completely faded out, and a certain revenue share must still be maintained.

As domestic DDR4 spreads to the terminal market, it is reported that the two Korean manufacturers plan to significantly reduce the proportion of DDR4 production capacity and develop towards high-end DDR5 and HBM3 and above specifications.

The industry believes that through the reduction of DDR4 production capacity supply by large manufacturers, the phenomenon of DRAM oversupply in 2025 is expected to improve, but Taiwanese DRAM manufacturers will probably bear the brunt and will face off with domestic manufacturers in the DDR4 battlefield. The memory industry is not only an industry that competes on production capacity, but also on process upgrade speed. Once Changxin and other manufacturers accelerate capacity expansion and technology speed upgrades towards DDR5, the competitive pressure in the DRAM industry in the future may increase day by day.
it is impressive just how much DDR4 capacity they have aded to the market. CXMT needs to ramp up DDR5 and HBM2/2E capacity over the next couple of years also.

In general, this seems like the trend. Chinese producers massively expanding in capacity for logic, DRAM, Nand, analog and power chips. Already really affecting the Koreans. I'm not sure when this will start affecting Micron and other Western chipmakers.
 

huemens

Junior Member
Registered Member
The company's website looks suspicious. They have an iOS app that is by invitation only and from the app store screeshot they are selling finance packages of 1000 RMB, 2000 RMB etc.

The company also stated in the same announcement that to celeberate the launch of this "new AI chip" the company will be giving each registered user 10 chicken eggs and other gifts including oil rice and flour. These type gifts seems a bit unusal for a high tech company. The announcment also talks about commissions paid to existing members for introducing new members etc.

In the linked Sohu article, it stated the company's person in charge is Robert Andrew Collins and I cannot find any specific information online about this person.

Yeah, the company about page also looks very sketchy. They say it was started as "Hong Kong Dongfanghong Industrial Revitalization Association" by famous Hong Kong industrialist Mr. Cao Guangbiao and after he passed away in 2021 they registered it as Hong Kong Dongfanghong Group to fulfill his wishes.
Since Mr. Cao Guangbiao was a real industrialist his profile is on many websites and Wikipedia, non of which mentions anything to do with this company.

The domain name for the website was registered just 4 months ago.

By Googling their name this is the only record I get, which is a dissolved company
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

And then there's the thing I mentioned in the previous post. The fact that SMIC or it's customers never talk about it's 7nm node or even 14nm node publicly. In fact, SMIC seems to be becoming more and more secretive as they previously removed 14nm from it's website and now have removed the page about logic nodes entirely and they don't mention anything about nodes on their financial reports any more. If SMIC themselves are not disseminating that kind of information they would surely NDA any potential customers.

So I'd say it is more likely to be a made up story to get investors, rather than a real customer.
 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
Registered Member

Shandong 5N high purity quartz sand​


Shandong Haiyang held a high-quality development observation activity. Liu Haibin, secretary of the municipal party committee, led the observers to visit Shandong Cangli Silicon-based New Materials Co., Ltd. The annual production of 3,000 tons of high-purity quartz materials project of Shandong Cangli Silicon-based New Materials Co., Ltd. is located in the Xingcun Town Industrial Park, with a total investment of 90 million yuan .

1731950401486.png

The project is invested by Zhongji Xuchuan Group and constructed and operated by Shanghai Cangli Smart Mining Technology Co., Ltd. According to China Powder Network, the project has the highest-standard standardized production workshop in the industry, independently developed flotation, pickling agents and semi-automated quartz sand production lines, and installed more than 60 sets of production equipment. At present, the project equipment installation and commissioning has been basically completed, and it has been put into trial production, and is scheduled to be officially put into production before the end of the year. After full production, it is expected to produce 3,000 tons of high-end high-purity quartz sand annually, with an output value of 300 million yuan.

The project party has independently overcome and mastered the world-class quartz sand preparation and processing technology. It has currently mastered the core technology and key equipment for 5N grade high-purity quartz sand purification, breaking the foreign technology monopoly . At present, the second phase of the project is being planned and promoted, and it is planned to build a 100-acre "quartz crucible factory" project in Dingziwan New Materials Industrial Park.​


Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
 
Top