Chinese semiconductor thread II

FairAndUnbiased

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Some of them learned. The decision makers won't listen to them though. Doing something that is akin to publicly admitting you are wrong, and are a foolish clown, is impossible in the West.
Yes it would result in losing honor and thus the divine right of kings. And they wuz kings. My "children's primer on western culture", an authoritative source, told me so.
 

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Yes it would result in losing honor and thus the divine right of kings. And they wuz kings. My "children's primer on western culture", an authoritative source, told me so.
Or a long career in the West can teach you that publicly owning up to a big mistake is career suicide. The general rule of thumb for survival and success is that you never did anything wrong, it was always somebody else's fault (or the market's fault), and you should always jump ship to another employer long before any massively career ending errors can be attributed to you. Or if you have some scapegoats already lined up, that works too. You can also hire consultants to make the risky recommendations and then pin it all on them if it goes south.
 
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Overbom

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Took five years but they are finally learning.
No they haven't. So much hubris, they somehow still think that China is stupid. China is actually already heavily investing in R&D on these technologies..
By the time Chinese domestic chip production has caught up, the United States needs to have already moved on to tackling the next technological frontier in advanced computing.
Light-based computing (using photons to process data) and neuromorphic computing (employing operations that mimic the human brain) are two promising candidates for the next-generation computing paradigm. In addition, quantum computing (using subatomic particles to process information) should exponentially accelerate calculations for certain applications.
These emerging technologies hold the potential to compute at unprecedented speeds and with much less energy use—facilitating scientific discovery, transforming industries, and modernizing militaries. Washington must now advance these moonshot technologies by funding basic research, expanding workforce development programs, and investing in the domestic manufacturing ecosystem.
 

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More on Mate 70. New Kirin-9100 on this 5nm (fake 5nm) says to have comparable performance to 8 gen 1 and power consumption to 8 gen 3. Looks like since Harmony OS is extremely light weight, they really tried to solve the one major issue with 9010 and 9000s, which is power consumption.
OV50K is the primary CIS for the high end version. OV50H on regular version. Looks like they still use Samsung/Sony for one of the secondary CIS.
3D facial recognition to use oFilm
BOE and GVO support screen, higher end than Mate 60.
They are planning 15 million in orders.

again, all rumors. Some of this seems to just be summary of what we've seen from more legit sources.
 

Phead128

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Took five years but they are finally learning.

This part is hilarious.
If China’s military and its commercial affiliates are able to smuggle just 3,500 of Nvidia’s cutting-edge H100 AI chips—0.25 percent of the 1.5 million that the company is expected to ship in 2024—China’s military would be able to train a relatively advanced large language model in only 11 minutes.

The Chinese military will draft the strongly worded communication letters with it's advanced LLM models using smuggled H100s. The most formidable letters ever written, built into J-20's HUD for real-time word processing. Taiwan is devastated.
 

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This part is hilarious.


The Chinese military will draft the strongly worded communication letters with it's advanced LLM models using smuggled H100s. The most formidable letters ever written, built into J-20's HUD for real-time word processing. Taiwan is devastated.

This is just a plot to get the US military investing in genAI so that they can have a more advanced version than the PLA.
 

tokenanalyst

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Took five years but they are finally learning.
They never do, they never do. No matter how many revenue are lost, how many market share is lost ,how many jobs are lost, doesn't matter because the bureaucrats that advocate for those controls they almost never work for those industries, careers are more important.

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