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ZeEa5KPul

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I want to make sure I have the story straight, so I'll summarize the current state of Chinese DUVL. Critiques and elaborations from more knowledgeable members welcome.

The SSA800 is in customers' (SMIC and CETC, perhaps others) hands and they will start using it for fabrication next year. The machine was initially intended to fabricate 28nm/14nm/7nm nodes, however it is currently only capable of fabricating 28nm/14nm nodes. With further improvements to certain components, it will be able to fabricate 7nm nodes. If reports are true that the SSA800 "failed" to meet the 02 Project criteria, it is this shortcoming at 7nm that is the cause of the failure.

There is another DUVL (tentatively called SSA1000) that is a 22nm single exposure machine, which following the typical halving pattern should be able to fabricate 22nm/11nm/5nm nodes (marketing says we should round down ;)). The production status of this machine is unknown and we don't expect it to appear in the immediate future (i.e., within the next year).

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sndef888

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I want to make sure I have the story straight, so I'll summarize the current state of Chinese DUVL. Critiques and elaborations from more knowledgeable members welcome.

The SSA800 is in customers' (SMIC and CETC, perhaps others) hands and they will start using it for fabrication next year. The machine was initially intended to fabricate 28nm/14nm/7nm nodes, however it is currently only capable of fabricating 28nm/14nm nodes. With further improvements to certain components, it will be able to fabricate 7nm nodes. If reports are true that the SSA800 "failed" to meet the 02 Project criteria, it is this shortcoming at 7nm that is the cause of the failure.

There is another DUVL (tentatively called SSA1000) that is a 22nm single exposure machine, which following the typical halving pattern should be able to fabricate 22nm/11nm/5nm nodes (marketing says we should round down ;)). The production status of this machine is unknown and we don't expect it to appear in the immediate future (i.e., within the next year).

Mistakes? Something I missed?
How does it compare to western machines? Is TSMC using this halving method for 7nm as well?
 

ZeEa5KPul

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How does it compare to western machines? Is TSMC using this halving method for 7nm as well?
Someone more knowledgeable than me will have to answer the first question. My first impression is that it matches the ASML 1980i. As for the second question, TSMC uses a mixture of multiple exposures on DUVL (which accomplishes this halving of node size) and EUVL, which does 7nm in a single exposure.
 

MortyandRick

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It is alleged that SMEE 28nm lithography machine failed to pass the 02 project acceptance exam

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I'm trying to read the subsequent posts and I just want to clarify, I don't read chinese and am not sure what the 02 project acceptance test is. So does it mean that the smee 28nm machine can't do 28nm right now or can they do 28nm but just not as good as ASML?
 

Annihilation98

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Someone more knowledgeable than me will have to answer the first question. My first impression is that it matches the ASML 1980i. As for the second question, TSMC uses a mixture of multiple exposures on DUVL (which accomplishes this halving of node size) and EUVL, which does 7nm in a single exposure.
TSMC use ASML 2000i to produce 7nm. Based on the failed 02 exam test, SMEE SSA800 probably can't even pass 1980Di. In my opinion, SSA 800 probably same level as 1970Ci which can produce 20nm at best.
 

ChongqingHotPot92

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Another attack from the US.
US is now pressuring SK Hynix to stop its planned investment in its huge Chinese facility.

Let's see now how South Korea will "bravely" protect its company from the US
Where does China currently get its lithography machines from. Because I think starting in 2018, China could no longer get them from ASML.
 

tonyget

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Any explanation on the 02 project acceptance exam? and why its fail?

When an company or academic institution undertake government development projects,they will announce the result publicly once the project is complete and passes government acceptance exam process.

According to 02 project outline,28nm lithography machine is suppose to be pass the acceptance exam by 2021. But it is Nov already, and there is still no announcement from SMEE,so people suspect that the project has failed.
 
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