It as crazy how at that time, Maos goal of surpassing Great Britain in steel output by 1970 seemed an impossible pipe dream. Now China produces over a billion tons of steel annually and the UK only 7 million tons.
Gloom and doom didn't "permeate" all by itself. Rather, some people were working assiduously to create this effect. They made great "predictions" about what the US would do, some of which panned out, and other predictions about how Huawei was dead... that did not pan out. Even more recently, people have made new predictions about all the wonderful moves the US will make (since I know you like "predictions"). I don't want those people back. One of their aims is to fish for information by provoking those who may know what is not public.Sir remember 2019 or 2020 were gloom and doom permeates this forum, I for one felt sorry for Huawei and there is a question regarding the SMIC 14nm chips if they able to produced it, now I can't wait for next year and hear reports about China domestic 14nm in mass production.
Steel total output was fine during the GLF. It just was very low quality in many places that didn't have any experience with steel production, and that low quality continued after the GLF ended. Granted, Mao was primarily interested in showing how you could reorganize society to bootstrap industrial output, but the efficiency of production was very low and that showed up in severe costs to other parts of the production pie, which is why the GLF turned into such an economic disaster. No matter how you cut it, big picture wise the GLF, and the neurotic obsession to push steel at the expense of other production needs, was just very incompetent economic policymaking on Mao's part.Yes, that's the Western propaganda; the Americans especially like to laugh at Mao's supposedly amateurish "backyard furnaces".
There were probably some peasant furnaces, but I doubt they contributed much steel during the Great Leap Forward. , the total steel production in China was:
Year Million tons of steel 1958 5.9 1965 12.2 1966 15.2 1976 20.5
Note that steel production actually continued to rise dramatically despite the shutdown of the backyard furnaces in the early 1960s. To me, this means the amateur furnaces were insignificant.
I notice that the West never bothers to say how many backyard furnaces existed during the Great Leap Forward. Of course, ridiculing them was part of a determined propaganda war intended to discredit Mao's huge achievements.
Steel total output was fine during the GLF. It just was very low quality in many places that didn't have any experience with steel production, and that low quality continued after the GLF ended. Granted, Mao was primarily interested in showing how you could reorganize society to bootstrap industrial output, but the efficiency of production was very low and that showed up in severe costs to other parts of the production pie, which is why the GLF turned into such an economic disaster. No matter how you cut it, big picture wise the GLF, and the neurotic obsession to push steel at the expense of other production needs, was just very incompetent economic policymaking on Mao's part.
Year | Million tons of steel |
1958 | 5.9 |
1965 | 12.2 |
1966 | 15.2 |
1976 | 20.5 |
Most western analysts and even people in this forum make the mistake of thinking that is the Chinese government the biggest force that is driving the semiconductor industry in China right now, but that is incorrect, of course the Chinese government is the one putting the money, but fear is the real force that is driving the semiconductor industry in China, The fear of American sanctions and export controls have push forward the Chinese semiconductor industry more than any Chinese politician ever have. The thing that once was a National security issue has become a survival issue.This is not a steel production thread. Get back on topic!
The term you're looking for, is "Sputnik Moment".Most western analysts and even people in this forum make the mistake of thinking that is the Chinese government the biggest force that is driving the semiconductor industry in China right now, but that is incorrect, of course the Chinese government is the one putting the money, but fear is the real force that is driving the semiconductor industry in China, The fear of American sanctions and export controls have push forward the Chinese semiconductor industry more than any Chinese politician ever have. The thing that once was a National security issue has become a survival issue.
@DarkStar Bro Sputnik Moment for us, Mea Culpa moment for themThe term you're looking for, is "Sputnik Moment".
The entire Chinese society realised with the targeted semiconductor bans and the motion to kill Huawei, that the white anglos had made it their foremost aim to deny China the technology required to restore Chinese civilisation to its proper place in humanity's future. Effectively, the anglos wanted asians and china to remain third world slaves for further future exploitation.
I'll be surprised if any anglo american tech companies still have a major footprint in China's future economy once this tech/trade war is concluded.