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It is correct about China buys 60% chips, but remember the big part of it to be exported back to the world as TV, Fridge, Computer. etc, etc
Interesting to know how much (in %) that really consume in China
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It is correct about China buys 60% chips, but remember the big part of it to be exported back to the world as TV, Fridge, Computer. etc, etc
Interesting to know how much (in %) that really consume in China
@AssassinsMace Sir to answer your question they simply miscalculated especially the Chinese respond, that's all there is to it. We all blame Trump, but the American Semis and tech industry had a hand in its imposition, they know which sector is vulnerable and they pounce on that. In consolation they didn't anticipate the Chinese resolved and determination, In pinpointing our vulnerabilities it enable the Chinese to correct it. Overall we had seen the progress of Chinese IC within the span of 3 1/2 years starting 2018 which the sanction was implemented, Self sufficiency in 28nm this year and 14nm next year is truly astonishing result. Sir remember 2019 or 2020 were gloom and doom permeates this forum, I for one felt sorry for Huawei and there is a question regarding the SMIC 14nm chips if they able to produced it, now I can't wait for next year and hear reports about China domestic 14nm in mass production.
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That final sentence tells you everything, This is not research or a comprehensive analysis, this is nothing more than a cheap marketing ad from that company.
Actually it is even more difficult because the exported items will have differente treatment depending on who designed the product being exported.
If you are talking about products designed, produced and exported by Chinese firms, it is the Chinese company that decides whether or not to use Chinese chips.
If, however, the product exported is designed and manufactured by a subsidiary of a NON-Chinese company, then the decision whether or not to use Chinese chips is made by the foreign co.
On the other hand, take the case of Apple: they are using every day more Chinese components in their products. Basically because they intend to keep a foothold on the Chinese consumer market. They know that if they want to sell in China, they'd better start using at least some Chinese chips.
It is a completely different thing if the product was designed by a foreign company which determines who to buy the chips from and that company has little or no exposure to the Chinese market.
At the end of the day, one will only know exactly what percentage of the chips China imports can actually be substituted by local content.
I believe it is, however, a very large part of those 60% imported.
I've seen an estimate of 20%-25% of all semiconductors are consumed inside China
It is correct that China buys more chips than the world combined.
Whether those chips put into products to be exported for added-value for more profits, is not really related to China being the biggest market for chips.
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Look at it this way.
There is a market for chips, there is a market for refrigerators.
China has the dominant position in both of them.
If you count the "steel" that is made out of household cooking pot, then it "worked", but then people don't have anything to prepare food. My parents' village did not go that far, but far enough that wasting useful object and got pile of useless iron. Those are not steel by any standard.
No offence but do your parents know this?
The whole crazy thing about GLF is that achieving a paper goal without substance.
GLF was when we learned that Mao was a great politician and a terrible industrial economist.
Yes, that's the Western propaganda; the Americans especially like to laugh at Mao's supposedly amateurish "backyard furnaces".
There were probably some peasant furnaces, but I doubt they contributed much steel during the Great Leap Forward. , the total steel production in China was:
| Year | Million tons of steel |
| 1958 | 5.9 |
| 1965 | 12.2 |
| 1966 | 15.2 |
| 1976 | 20.5 |
Note that steel production actually continued to rise dramatically despite the shutdown of the backyard furnaces in the early 1960s. To me, this means the amateur furnaces were insignificant.
I notice that the West never bothers to say how many backyard furnaces existed during the Great Leap Forward. Of course, ridiculing them was part of a determined propaganda war intended to discredit Mao's huge achievements.
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