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ansy1968

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hashtagpls said:
Bingo.

The USG merely acts as the hired muscle for anglo american 1%er Elites.
These white people would love nothing better than to buy Asian tech companies for pennies on the dollar, as they did to Samsung.

Brother, you raise good points but i fear you underestimate the psychopathy of the Anglo Mind.
This is what the Anglos will do, after having poured billions of dollars into those White Elephant fabs in Arizona and Texas.
They will commence a war, a conflict; perhaps get English Vegetable to commit suicide by declaring taiwan independence such that China has to act.

A war in east Asia would devastate all Asian fabs and make the anglo controlled fabs the only remaining fabs in the world still standing. They will do it via a proxy so that they don't have to fight- look at the state of the SCS where it's the anglos trying to get the PI or Vietnam to commit suicide by going to war with China. That's exactly the same anglo MO right here.
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@hashtagpls Bro welcome and please lets discuss it, Regarding your statement "They will commence a war, a conflict; perhaps get English Vegetable to commit suicide by declaring taiwan independence such that China has to act." On the contraire it will be the Chinese who will be embolden, let me explain. 2025 will be the date for the completion and operations of those FABS, it coincide with the possible operation of a Chinese EUVL either by SMEE or CETC. So both the US and China will be on equal footing (SMIC had both 5nm and 3nm project plan finished just waiting for an EUVL) having reach parity with the US therefore may encourage President Xi to invade Taiwan and unify it. What holding them back is the interdependence between the three, by severing it the US had thrown the Taiwanese under the bus.
 
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manqiangrexue

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Oldschool said:
65nm is pretty old stuffs. Fully Indeginous at old stuffs isn't asking a whole lot , ZeEa5KPul.
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It's asking for something that the market didn't ask for so it's asking a lot. How many countries have and indigenous 65nm line from lithography? 65nm isn't asking for much compared to 7nm but it's still asking a tremendous amount compared to what countries can achieve. China's on track to be self-sufficient in far newer stuff than 65nm, though, so it's leapfrogging instead of increasing incrementally from the base.

By the way, your response, once again, fails to counter any of the points in the reply that you quoted. You are still asking for end results at the start of the tech war which is basically barking for the result of a boxing match in round 1.
 
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voyager1

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I think that in 2 years we can get some preliminary results on China progress while under a tech war. Currently we are just at the start and we dont many data to be able to evaluate China's performance
 
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Kazuo Ken

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voyager1 said:
I think that in 2 years we can get some preliminary results on China progress while under a tech war. Currently we are just at the start and we dont many data to be able to evaluate China's performance
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English exercise,

"we dont_fill the blank many data to be able to evaluate China's performance"
 
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Oldschool

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@SleepyStudent
You claims China is a chemical powerhouse.
As far as I know , Japan supplies the most chemicals for semiconductor industry.
China has photoresist chemicals for 28nm, working on 14nm and none for more advanced nodes.
 
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Oldschool

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manqiangrexue said:
It's asking for something that the market didn't ask for so it's asking a lot. How many countries have and indigenous 65nm line from lithography? 65nm isn't asking for much compared to 7nm but it's still asking a tremendous amount compared to what countries can achieve. China's on track to be self-sufficient in far newer stuff than 65nm, though, so it's leapfrogging instead of increasing incrementally from the base.

By the way, your response, once again, fails to counter any of the points in the reply that you quoted. You are still asking for end results at the start of the tech war which is basically barking for the result of a boxing match in round 1.
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None of other country got sanctioned so hard like China. Survival story. Comparing others to feel good is a moot and lame point.
 
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Oldschool said:
@SleepyStudent
You claims China is a chemical powerhouse.
As far as I know , Japan supplies the most chemicals for semiconductor industry.
China has photoresist chemicals for 28nm, working on 14nm and none for more advanced nodes.
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Do the Japanese create those chemicals from scratch or do they churn them out of precursors imported elsewhere?
 
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