Chinese semiconductor industry

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manqiangrexue

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I understand more what's happening inside China than wannabe CCP party spokesperson , US living since youth and working in US hospital or clinics manqiangruxue.
That's why I can out-debate you on everything, leaving you with no rebuttal except my geolocation, right?
Members PM me say his behaviors is polluting the thread and disrupt people want to learn.
Last time that happened, it was all your alternate accounts having a conversation with each other, which you sent to me, and I sent to Deino, and then you got banned and started crying he raped you. If anything remotely like that happened to me, I'd be too embarrassed to show my face (or so to say) here again but you seem to proudly bring it up over and over like that's what happens when your plans go well.
Lets going back to China semiconductor industry learning, should we?
Great, is WTAN gonna post something?
 
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weig2000

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The reason that china has that internet companies prowess is in large part because foreign companies are blocked from the chinese market, and other barriers. You cant acess google nor facebook in china. I dont think that one can conclude anything about china´s education system from the fact that chinese best know companies are largely internet ones.

Nonsense. This has to be one of the myths the westerners love to sell. Google and Baidu had been competing fiercely in China for years; Google never gained the upper hand. At the time of its exit from the Chinese market, Google had about 20+% search market share while Biadu had about 70%. In one of more recent epic competition between a well-known foreign internet company and Chinese ones, Uber vs. Didi, it was a very fair and fierce fight. Uber's founder focused on China and traveled to China dozens of time a year during the time. It still conceded in the end, and sold Uber China to Didi. There are numerous other examples, such as eBay invested heavily in China and acquired its Chinese competitor eachnet, but in the end still had to concede to Alibaba.

The biggest reason that foreign internet companies lost out to domestic rivals are their lack of agility and adaptability to Chinese market and customers. The major decisions were usually made outside China by foreign executives. China is a giant, complex and fast-movig market; it doesn't usually work that way.

Its very hard for chinese companies to compete with the multinationals that have decades of experience ahead of them. china only really started developing in the last 40 years. For example, geely (AFAIK the largest private chinese car company), only started making cars in 1999. hyundai started making cars in 1968.

It depends upon what market they're competing. For auto industry, where cumulative experiences and decades if not century of technology plus brand are formidable barriers for the Chinese companies. But electric car industry will be different, because the industry and technologies are new, Chinese companies are much better chances. Civilian aircraft industry is another example that it's very challenging for the Chinese companies to compete; it would take a very long time.

But there are some industries of complex technologies that Chinese companies have succeeded. Telecommunication equipment being the most obvious one (no, not because Huawei and ZTE got state subsidies or stole foreign companies' IPs. Those are nonsense). HSR and nuclear power plants are also industries where Chinese companies have succeeded - yes large domestic market plays a big role but at least technology-wise Chinese companies reached parity if not leadership. Other examples include ultra high voltage transmission industry, construction machinery, photovoltaic power generation, wind turbines etc.
 

Oldschool

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That's why I can out-debate you on everything, leaving you with no rebuttal except my geolocation, right?

Last time that happened, it was all your alternate accounts having a conversation with each other, which you sent to me, and I sent to Deino, and then you got banned and started crying he raped you. If anything remotely like that happened to me, I'd be too embarrassed to show my face (or so to say) here again but you seem to proudly bring it up again and again like that's what happens when your plans go well.

Great, is WTAN gonna post something?
People said you polluting the thread everything you said is non technical.
 

manqiangrexue

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People said you polluting the thread everything you said is non technical.
Yeah, I already answered this. This little repeated answer that you gave looks like you just had an aneurysm.

"Last time that happened, it was all your alternate accounts having a conversation with each other, which you sent to me, and I sent to Deino, and then you got banned and started crying he raped you. If anything remotely like that happened to me, I'd be too embarrassed to show my face (or so to say) here again but you seem to proudly bring it up over and over like that's what happens when your plans go well."

And I out-debated you on every one of your points; if they were not technical, then it's your fault you started them that way. Also, all the real people say you should take your multiple bans and leave forever.
 

manqiangrexue

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Really ZeEa5KPul?
Really. With your, "I think you work at a hospital in America."
With your magnets and PC board article.
Defeated old point; reread:
"Obviously, to any English speaker, parts =/= only semiconductors. You made the assumption that there were no Chinese parts in American weapons and you were proven wrong, so to save face you tried to pretend that only semiconductors count as parts."
 

Oldschool

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Really. With your, "I think you work at a hospital in America."

Defeated old point; reread:
"Obviously, to any English speaker, parts =/= only semiconductors. You made the assumption that there were no Chinese parts in American weapons and you were proven wrong, so to save face you tried to pretend that only semiconductors count as parts."
Chinese nuts and bolts sure in F35, do we really care,?ZeEa5KPul
Except you, no other people would care.
 

manqiangrexue

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Chinese nuts and bolts sure in F35, do we really care,?ZeEa5KPul
We don't care; that's why nobody talked about it until it had to be brought up to prove you ignorant and wrong again. If you don't care, then don't ask if Chinese parts are in American weapons. But instead, you insinuate something, get proven wrong, then try to save face by disowning your incorrect statements. It ain't slick and I won't let it slide.
 
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