@voyager1 bro SMIC Shanghai SN1 FAB will be operational this year, next year the Beijing FAB plus the recently approved Shenzhen FAB, that's 3 huge FABS by SMIC alone. And TSMC new FAB will be operation by 2023 so SMIC had the advantage.
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I think what he said is China's last resort option against semiconductor blockade by equally denying the rest of the world of semiconductor chips, not particularly about reunification with Taiwan.
Firing missiles on TSMC alone will not bring about reunification with Taiwan, but reunification with Taiwan will not be brought about without military takeover. Anything else such as wishing Taiwan will just surrender and want to reunite with the People's Republic of China when the PROC becomes more successful and Taiwan fails economically or winning their heart is blind optimism.
$$$ why don't you focus exclusively on real estate and financial market. Oh yeah you told me you are into money management and economics.
What do you know about making country strong.
China is well known in the world for its internet companies prowess. Baidu, tencent, alibaba.
What kind of chemical and mechanical world class Chinese companies you talking about , dude?
The best companies in country will directly reflect it's education system
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Writing is on the wall, any country across 60% of US, US will attack. It happened to Soviet, japan
Any aspiring country doesnt prepare that, then it's that country fault for being dumb.
Depending on international is unprepared.
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So 30% is bad, yet the article claims that "by the end of the year fully domestic 28nm can be done."
Too optimistic?
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You are focusing on CNC machining right?
What's the model China had for ion beam polishing CNC machine tools, magnetorheological CNC machine tools?
Not just mechanical 5axis high end CNC?
those required for EUV mirror
also polishing the main mirror and reflector of China's reconnaissance satellite of 1 meter, 1.5 meters and 3 meters.
You are focusing on CNC machining right?
What's the model China had for ion beam polishing CNC machine tools, magnetorheological CNC machine tools?
Not just mechanical 5axis high end CNC?
those required for EUV mirror
also polishing the main mirror and reflector of China's reconnaissance satellite of 1 meter, 1.5 meters and 3 meters.
First sample delivery to SMIC-Beijing by year end and mass production sometimes in 2022.
If Chinese government prepare for inevitable clash between US and China, adopted right industrial and education policies this type of DUV should already done in 2013. 28nm first appeared in western market in 2011.
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I dont think so. As long as the machine was properly designed and manufactured then it is normal to have low yields when you start. This is why they will send these machines to some customers in Q4 2021 for limited production so that they can iron out bugs, gather feedback, change parameters etc. This is a complex machine and when customers start getting involved then the yields will start rising.
I would suggest to wait until Q2 2022 to get an idea of how high the yields will be. It is still too early now
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Because every business is there to make money. China would be big North Korea if it didn't focus on making money and economics.
Apparently a lot more than you and your old-school outdated post Chinese civil war style.
The education system geared China up for growth in the era that it was made for and it did that wonderfully hence China's growth and success. You cannot create an education system for something that has yet to happen because the demand is not there yet, so the students will not enlist to learn something that will drop them in some dead-end government stipend job.
The US had a rivalry with the Soviets regardless of their economics, which was far far weaker than China's. Even in retrospect, you cannot correctly describe America's trends but you expect other people to accurately predict the future.
No, it's the fault of some wannabe expert who has accomplished nothing to speak of criticizing a government that runs the fastest developing country in the world.
What does it mean to be prepared? Is it prepared to be at a stage where you can quickly develop the tools when needed? Or do you need to have prototypes? Or do you need to have everything in competitive order ready for the market immediately? There are so many different levels of preparedness in so many different fields. That America has so few targets to attempt the technological chokehold on with China is China being prepared. A lessor nation could have multiple critical technologies in all fields strangled and be unable to handle R&D on all of them at once. Your complaint is simply raising the standards sky high for others without looking at yourself.
One of the biggest mistakes that the Soviets made in their ideology was to do things for the sake of doing them; China does things as the need arises. And because of that, China always found itself in the hotspot of growth while the Soviets bankrupted themselves on needless projects that they did not have the resources to see through to the end. A domestic advanced lithograph was exactly such a project before the tech war. It would have been tremendously expensive and inefficient to build, especially because companies didn't want to make one as there was no need, so using government funds to push them was like trying to push an elephant lying down. Those resources can be used to push many other things that move better, and the CCP did just that. Now, the need is there and the these companies all see that their futures depend on it; that elephant is up and running and with an additional push, it's charging forward like it's got an engine in it.
That's an economically ignorant thing to say. Because there is a problem now with China needing to replace some foreign parts, which it can do, you are overcorrecting into a territory that would have made China a much smaller and failed economy instead. If everyone else is in an internationalized economy and you are not, you are like North Korea and you will end up spending higher and higher percentages of your wealth to achieve lesser and lesser technological breakthroughs in that situation.
No, it reflects China's dynamism and adaptability to a changing challenge and global environment.
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