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european_guy

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1.2% is within the margin of error. What I see is that the utilization rate is holding high despite them substantially increasing capacity.

Looking at the numbers, in particular on the difference between Q2 and Q3 on China market, SMIC moved from 754K wpm capacity at 78,3% utilization with 79,6% of which sold to China, to 796K capacity with 77,1% utilization and 84% sold to China.

This means that volume sold to china increased from 470K wpm in Q2 to 515K wpm in Q3, this is a +10% QoQ on domestic market. This is not a small increment.

Assuming that in case of further demand and further decopuling from US customers, SMIC can realistically grow to 90% utilization with 90% on domestic market, this at current capacity equals to 644K wpm, i.e. about +130K wpm of new available volume for China market, even without capacity expansion.
 
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tokenanalyst

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And overview of the memory market in China

Domestic investment expansion: NAND/DRAM/logic investment in production lines under construction account for approximately 21%/24%/54% respectively.

According to our incomplete statistics, the total planned production capacity of domestically funded 12-inch wafer fabs currently under construction reaches 1.75 million wafers/month. Except for Pengxin Micro/Pengxinxu/Jita, which cannot obtain accurate investment amounts, the total investment amount reaches US$111.7 billion. , of which NAND (Yangtze Memory) investment accounted for 21%, DRAM (Changxin Storage + Fujian Jinhua) investment accounted for 24%, and the total investment in logic and other production lines represented by SMIC and Huahong Semiconductor accounted for nearly 54%. Logical end: 1) SMIC: The total planned production capacity of the four production lines in Beijing/Shenzhen/Lingang/Tianjin reaches 340,000 pieces/month, and the total investment amount reaches US$26.32 billion. Among them, SMIC Shenzhen will start mass production in 2022, SMIC Beijing will start mass production in 2023H2, SMIC Lingang is building pilot lines, and SMIC Tianjin is under civil construction. 2) Huahong Wuxi - Phase III: Investment of US$6.7 billion, planned 12-inch production capacity of 83,000 pieces/month, planned to complete factory construction and start installing equipment in 2024Q4. Storage side: 1) NAND: Yangtze Memory previously planned to invest US$24 billion in building a 3D NAND Flash factory, with a total planned production capacity of 300,000 pieces/month; technically, Changcun will launch its 232-layer product in 2022. 2) DRAM: Changxin previously planned to invest 150 billion yuan (approximately US$21.7 billion) in the "Changxin 12-inch Memory Manufacturing Base Project", with a total DRAM production capacity of 360,000 pieces/month built in the third phase; technically, Changxin Memory It is also expected to enter stages 1y and 1z. Although the development of domestic storage manufacturers has slowed down in the short term due to the impact of the U.S. BIS list in October 2022, in the long term, as domestic semiconductor equipment gradually breaks through and matures, upstream and downstream resonance, the development and expansion of domestic memory are still worth looking forward to.

Mainland China pattern: Domestic equipment substitution has achieved remarkable results, with total domestic revenue CAGR reaching 54% from 2018 to 2022.

Since 2018, domestic semiconductor equipment companies have entered a stage of rapid development driven by "domestic substitution". In 2022, the revenue related to Northern Huachuang/China Microelectronics/America Shanghai/Tuojing Technology/Huahai Qingke/Xinyuan Micro Semiconductor Equipment Reaching 114.3/38.5/28.7/17.1/14.2/1.38 billion yuan respectively, the compound annual growth rates from 2018 to 2022 are 55%/29%/51%/122%/159%/60% respectively. In the mass testing equipment sector, the revenue scale of Jingce Electronics and Zhongke Feicheng is still low. The overall localization rate of the sector is still less than 5%, and there is huge room for substitution in the future.

In terms of proportion, we pulled the sales revenue of the world's TOP5 semiconductor equipment manufacturers in mainland China from 2018 to 2022, and compared the semiconductor equipment revenue of domestic companies. The calculation found that: 1) In 2018, the proportion of domestic products in mainland China was approximately 5.2%. By 2022 has increased to 14.5%; 2) Among overseas equipment manufacturers, AMAT’s share has dropped significantly, from 42.8% in 2018 to 26.8% in 2022; 3) Domestic equipment manufacturers have made significant breakthroughs, among which, Northern Huachuang’s share has dropped from 2018 to 26.8% in 2022. will increase from 2.4% to 6.8% in 2022. The trend of platform layout accelerates process breakthroughs and competition, and domestic semiconductor equipment companies continue to hone their alpha competitiveness. As the scale of the domestic semiconductor equipment market gradually expands, leading semiconductor equipment companies have begun to rely on their original core advantages of machine tools and process development capabilities to develop from a "single category" to a "platform" model to create N+ for their own development. 1 growth curve. On the basis of silicon etching, PVD, and furnace tube equipment, Northern Huachuang began to develop dielectric etching, CVD and other fields; Tuojing Technology continued to delve into thin film deposition processes, while developing hybrid bonding equipment, aiming at 2.5D/3D packaging market; China Microelectronics has formed a business layout of "full coverage of etching, partial coverage of deposition, and investment layout for mass detection"; Huahai Qingke has opened up the second growth curve - thinning equipment, and also invested in the layout of ion implanters; Shengmei Shanghai Electroplating, Furnace tube products have entered a period of large-scale production, and the third-tier gluing and developing machines and PECVD products are being verified; Xinyuan micro-coating and developing machines continue to increase their volume, and at the same time they are deploying in the field of front-end chemical cleaning; Zhichun Technology has decided to increase its layout of furnace tubes and gluing Develop the track. It is foreseeable that as the domestic semiconductor equipment industry continues to develop at a rapid pace, market competition will become increasingly fierce. Domestic semiconductor equipment companies are expected to continue to hone their alpha competitiveness in the competition, thereby promoting the acceleration of domestic substitution.​
 

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The article basically just stated lots of info that didn't really match the title, but I don't see anything that's glaringly incorrect.

The iLine stepper the article's title referred to is not the same as iLine stepper you are talking about.

The new Nikon I-line tool, NSR-2205iL, is a 5x stepper with lower NA lens/resolution capability to target very mature applications like MEMS, power devices, etc. These will take care of the most critical layers of older technology applications.

The I-line systems that you referred to as something Nikon has been selling, NSR SF155, are 4x steper with wee bit higher NA/ resolution and are meant as a complementary tool to handle less critical layers (to other 4x KrF/ArF/ArFi scanners for increasingly difficult layers) of more advanced logic/DRAM/3D-NAND applications.

The 2205iL1 is indeed cheaper tool than SF155 and is intended to capture the Chinese fab expansion in the older mature tech space, which Canon is dominating in. Much of Canon's iLine sales are 5x steppers, which ASML and Nikon do not compete in (with new tools). Nikon trying to get a piece of this pie that ASML doesn't play in is understandable.
You missed the point of my article. I did not say anything about the technology. I too could have copied and pasted data about their new system. What I said was the article was full of errors.
It stated: "Currently, ASML holds the top position with a market share of 62% in the global lithography machine market, followed by Canon with a share of 31%. Nikon ranks third with a share of only 7%."
However, ASML's share in 2022 was 92%, not 62%. Canon's share was 5% not 31%. Nikon's share was 3% not 7%.
Also, it stated: "Nikon has decided to release a new product in 2024, marking the reintroduction of mature technology lithography machines after 24 years."
However, as I stated, Nikon been selling i-line systems and sold 23 so far in 2023 and 23 in 2022. They have been dropping in share and lost significantly to Canon which sold 138 i-line systems in 1H 2023. You can read about my analysis in this article:
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Looking at the numbers, in particular on the difference between Q2 and Q3 on China market, SMIC moved from 754K wpm capacity at 78,3% utilization with 79,6% of which sold to China, to 796K capacity with 77,1% utilization and 84% sold to China.

This means that volume sold to china increased from 470K wpm in Q2 to 515K wpm in Q3, this is a +10% QoQ on domestic market. This is not a small increment.

Assuming that in case of further demand and further decopuling from US customers, SMIC can realistically grow to 90% utilization with 90% on domestic market, this at current capacity equals to 644K wpm, i.e. about +130K wpm of new available volume for China market, even without capacity expansion.

And they are still capacity constrained in 40/55nm for certain specialty processes.

SMIC adding capacity mostly in 28/40/55nm segment right now, because there is plenty of demand from domestic customers as supply chains change

consider this
TrendForce's latest research estimates that Samsung Electronics' 8-inch wafer fab utilization rate may drop to 50% in 2024, mainly due to shrinking global semiconductor demand, which is unlikely to pick up for a while, and Chinese customers switching orders in response to U.S. sanctions , dragging down Samsung’s order intake.
so yeah, SMIC winning market share in matured nodes is going to lead to continued weakness in Samsung & Taiwanese fab

SMIC repeated this multiple times in their earnings call

There is an overcapacity globally, but neither Chinese or American fabs sufficiently serve domestic market.

Also Chinese customers saw overstocked inventory 2 quarters or more sooner than western customers, so their inventory is already back to natural levels. Western customers' inventory levels still too high. As such, you see SMIC basically growing revenues by healthy demand from domestic customers replacing the weakness in foreign customers.


keep in mind that SMIC's margin is shrinking because it has drastically increased its capex in past 2 years, so the depreciation is very high vs previous year. Overstocking ASML lithography machines isn't cheap
 

staplez

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And they are still capacity constrained in 40/55nm for certain specialty processes.

SMIC adding capacity mostly in 28/40/55nm segment right now, because there is plenty of demand from domestic customers as supply chains change

consider this

so yeah, SMIC winning market share in matured nodes is going to lead to continued weakness in Samsung & Taiwanese fab

SMIC repeated this multiple times in their earnings call

There is an overcapacity globally, but neither Chinese or American fabs sufficiently serve domestic market.

Also Chinese customers saw overstocked inventory 2 quarters or more sooner than western customers, so their inventory is already back to natural levels. Western customers' inventory levels still too high. As such, you see SMIC basically growing revenues by healthy demand from domestic customers replacing the weakness in foreign customers.


keep in mind that SMIC's margin is shrinking because it has drastically increased its capex in past 2 years, so the depreciation is very high vs previous year. Overstocking ASML lithography machines isn't cheap
I knew it. I kept seeing news articles stating that SMIC profits were down in spite of Huawei, implying they're losing sales. But I felt something was off. Sure enough it's because they're stocking up on equipment, not lost sales. I'm so tired of trying to figure out what media hides in news articles.
 

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I knew it. I kept seeing news articles stating that SMIC profits were down in spite of Huawei, implying they're losing sales. But I felt something was off. Sure enough it's because they're stocking up on equipment, not lost sales. I'm so tired of trying to figure out what media hides in news articles.

Stocking up on equipment would not have affected the profit figure. The company would have just used up more cash but increased its asset value in return for buying new equipment.

Having said that, there's no denying these news articles frequently hide things that are not in their or their intended readers' interest.
 
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