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Blitzo

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So probably built a fleet of these prototypes underground secret facilities already

No.

The thread is rather long, but please have a look at the last six months of posts before randomly posting articles and making exaggerated interpretations of them, especially as you are a new member here.
 

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Does the LPP have the same potential as state of the art EUV in the West, or for that we will be waiting for the SSMB?

Because if LPP has the same potential I don't know why everyone is talking about SSMB at such early stages.
 

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Many industry experts claim the overheat issue is due to TSMC 3nm using FinFet processes.
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I have to wonder if other players (outside of Samsung) are moving to GAA for their own 3nm nodes instead of staying with FinFet. While no doubt TSMC's process will be refined over time, I want to ask if its current struggles would affect that of other foundries and IDMs when making the decision on when to make the switch.
 

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I have to wonder if other players (outside of Samsung) are moving to GAA for their own 3nm nodes instead of staying with FinFet. While no doubt TSMC's process will be refined over time, I want to ask if its current struggles would affect that of other foundries and IDMs when making the decision on when to make the switch.
Samsung 3nm is using GAA but Samsung has a very bad reputable for reliability. As for TSMC, its 2nm chip is also moving to GAA.
 
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measuredingabens

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Does the LPP have the same potential as state of the art EUV in the West, or for that we will be waiting for the SSMB?

Because if LPP has the same potential I don't know why everyone is talking about SSMB at such early stages.
Thing is, we don't really know. We've seen indications that Chinese institutes can at least design high-NA optical systems, but we aren't sure where they are at their fabrication. Even so, there is some leeway to catch up in that area; current 3nm processes still uses low-NA lithography, while Intel plans to stay with low-NA for their 18A process. High NA doesn't look to be that much of a concern for the major players in the semi space for the near future.
 

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Thing is, we don't really know. We've seen indications that Chinese institutes can at least design high-NA optical systems, but we aren't sure where they are at their fabrication. Even so, there is some leeway to catch up in that area; current 3nm processes still uses low-NA lithography, while Intel plans to stay with low-NA for their 18A process. High NA doesn't look to be that much of a concern for the major players in the semi space for the near future.
If intel has trouble using DUV for 7nm node due to complexity, how would it be able to deliver 18 node with low NA.
 
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