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FriedButter

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I will love to see the squirming comments on the part of anti-China commentators, both renown and nobodies on social media and elsewhere on the www, when they are forced to admit that China has essentially caught up qualitatively in all aspects of semiconductor industry goods manufacturing and other high tech manufacturing.


https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1208kjy

Talk about sensitive feelings because the thread got locked before anyone upvoted/downvoted it and thus they remind ignorant

Smart move. South Korea with current birth rate will literally not exists in some decades given their already small population. The future is in China.

No guarantees that the US isn’t going to strong arm South Korea either. Plus they have R&D centers in the US
 

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Jingrui Electric Materials: Hubei Jingrui, a shareholding subsidiary, received a capital increase of 160 million yuan in the second phase of the National Fund​

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Jingrui Electric Materials issued an announcement that the company, Hubei Changjiang (Qianjiang) Industrial Investment Fund Partnership (Limited Partnership) (hereinafter referred to as "Qianjiang Fund"), and its shareholding subsidiaries Jingrui (Hubei) Microelectronics Materials Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "Hubei Jingrui", the "Target Company"), the National Integrated Circuit Industry Investment Fund Phase II Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as the "Second Phase Fund"), Shenzhen Guoxin Yi Joint Emerging Industry Private Equity Investment Fund Partnership (Limited Partnership) (hereinafter referred to as "Guosen Yihe Fund") and Xiamen Minxinan Hongsheng Science and Technology Fund Partnership (Limited Partnership) (hereinafter referred to as "Guoxin Southwest Fund") jointly signed The "Capital Increase Agreement on Jingrui (Hubei) Microelectronics Materials Co., Ltd." (hereinafter referred to as the "Capital Increase Agreement") and the "Shareholder Agreement on Jingrui (Hubei) Microelectronics Materials Co., Ltd." "Agreement"), in order to improve the industrial layout and realize long-term planning, Hubei Jingrui intends to introduce strategic investors through capital increase and share expansion. Right to pay capital.

The second phase fund, Guoxin Yihe Fund, and Guoxin Southwest Fujian Fund plan to increase capital of 160 million yuan, 30 million yuan, and 30 million yuan in cash to Hubei Jingrui, respectively, and the corresponding new registered capital is 135,021,097 yuan, 25,316,456 yuan, 25,316,456 yuan, 25.316456 million yuan, the part of the capital increase exceeding the registered capital shall be included in the capital reserve of Hubei Jingrui. Before the capital increase, Qianjiang Fund and the company held 65% and 35% of the equity of Hubei Jingrui respectively; Holds 44.3948%, 23.9049%, 23.0548%, 4.3228%, 4.3228% of the equity of Hubei Jingrui.

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I wonder why they don't just realease P60 after they got Kirin. Having a flagship smartphone without 5g is such a shame.
Probably because they have more or less set schedule for release of their flagship smartphones - P series is released during spring, while Mate is at fall. Mate is more "premium" than P series though, so that could mean that they are really sure in their upcoming Kirin chip since it would have to at least not fall too far behind the other top competitors (or P60 in the worst case) and it would already be quite an achievement considering all the obstacles Huawei is facing currently.
 

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Chinese mask company developing EUV mask and reticles.

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Good sign of commercialization of EUV.
Since you've been following this for a long time, I was just curious. We are seeing a lot more patents and reports coming out about different parts of EUV project coming to close. If we are to draw parallel to DUVi program, when did we see similar amount of news come out?
 

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This is good news... Huawei continues to strive in making technological progress and though hurt and shaken, US attempts to destroy it have failed, as it is now clearly recovering.

There is already a thread of reddit about it. While the OP is sanguine in his comments, saying that it is only a matter of time, likely before the end of the decade, that China will be able to produce almost all semiconductor related goods of quality comparable to those found anywhere else {I am paraphrasing}, the comments section is filled with so many people downplaying it, or saying that China steals all technology, and continuing with the well known and often racist tropes that China is incapable of innovating and it is part of Chinese culture to steal etc...

I will love to see the squirming comments on the part of anti-China commentators, both renown and nobodies on social media and elsewhere on the www, when they are forced to admit that China has essentially caught up qualitatively in all aspects of semiconductor industry goods manufacturing and other high tech manufacturing.


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It's always funny that they persistently describing EUV as if it's a kryptonite space ship by saying "It has thousands of suppliers and million of components". Dude, do you think cars, ships, trains and planes don't have million of components? China can made those on scale.
 

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It's always funny that they persistently describing EUV as if it's a kryptonite space ship by saying "It has thousands of suppliers and million of components". Dude, do you think cars, ships, trains and planes don't have million of components? China can made those on scale.

That's cause they don't understand any of the technology. Neither do I really, but I try not to make too many assumptions. At least, not any more.

 

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Not directly related to Chinese Semi, but likely implications down the road

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As I mentioned, we are already seeing RISC-V start to replace Cortex-M in the embedded microcontroller market due to cost factors.

Should ARM accelerate its plans to increase licensing costs to lower margin customers such as UNISOC and Mediatek, those will be the first dominos to fall.

Once there is sufficient momentum behind and architectural change, it can open up an opportunity to displace or catch up to TSMC as their libraries are optimized for ARM.

We already saw this with the Intel-ARM transition where Intel designs were not optimized for lower power CPUs which then made their transition to smaller nodes more difficult.
 

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Since you've been following this for a long time, I was just curious. We are seeing a lot more patents and reports coming out about different parts of EUV project coming to close. If we are to draw parallel to DUVi program, when did we see similar amount of news come out?
The first research test on immersion lithography that I know was done by State Key Laboratory of Fluid Power and Mechatronic System, Zhejiang University in 2011. Cheetech was founded in 2013 to commercialize ultrapure water equipment, ultra high precision temperature- flow sensing and immersion lithography flow "hoods" units. A pretty obscure project that you have to scout academic papers and research institutions patents to get some information. I wasn't surprise when I first come to this forum that nobody knew that a immersion machine project was in development in China.

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Then first commercial companies that I remember to announce the project was SMEE in 2017 and U-Precision in 2018. It was suppose to be a 65nm immersion machine.
Zhejiang University:
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As same of other SMEE frontend machines didn't get much support or hurry from the industry because I guess of the mind of industrial managers they thought why I we are going to support this "lab experiment" when they have access to the best machines that ASML and Nikon can offer, everybody thought this machines are commodities therefore not subject to export restrictions.

SMEE:
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U-precision 2018:

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