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Not necessarily. SMIC might have gotten more customers for the FinFET processes i.e. the factory is more loaded to capacity or they might have improved yield. Without increasing the maximum amount of wafers they can process.
We did some calculation based on the chart for revenue per 12 inch wafer of 14 nm (you know the ones provided by research on revenue/cost for different wafer sizes) and it averaged something like 30k wpm for first half of this year. Although, I suspect that they were probably producing 14/12 and N+1 by then. My guess is they are getting pretty close to operating 35k wpm at SN1 by now.
It is good that SMIC are getting customers for FinFET. Too many Chinese companies are choosing to fab chips at TSMC and Samsung when they could be using SMIC instead. I think this is seriously myopic on their part and they risk getting hit by sanctions too.
Sometimes, chip designers need a bigger wakeup call. Phytium had no choice because they got put on entity list in 2021. Since then, all their chips had to be fabbed at SMIC. Pretty sure SMIC is also fabbing Hygon and Zhaoxin by this point.
I think I read somewhere that the S80 GPU uses a 7nm process. If that is the case I doubt they are fabbing it at SMIC. The problem with GPUs is that they typically have a large die area and if the process still has too many defects the chip will be severely hit by that. Although GPUs are highly regular so perhaps that can be mitigated.
We haven't received any info on its process. we know S60 used 12nm and S80 has noticeably higher transistor count (but not what you would expect for N7P). Based on the absolute secrecy about it, I think there is a good chance they are going with SMIC N+1 process, but who knows.
I hope you are right about SMIC FinFET capacity expansion. But I am kind of skeptical.


What about all the new SMIC 28nm fabs then? I doubt they will be using non-existant SMEE immersion lithography machines.
I keep reading the new Beijing fab will be using SMEE scanners (at least for some production lines), but who knows. The news that Guowang is massively expanding production for 28nm, 90/110nm and 280/350nm is as indicative of SMEE scanner demand as any. That will go into production in 2023.

The new Shenzhen fab, beijing capital fab and any SMNC fab expansion don't need NXT 2050i/2100i. These scanners are probably a lot more expensive than your standard 1980i they use for your regular 28nm production. As such, the fact that they are continuing to take 2100i deliveries should be a good sign that they are expanding FinFet production.

On the whole, they are probably buying 20 to 25 ASML Arfi scanners a year. That's way more than they need for the mature process capacity expansion that they are doing (which is probably 50k wpm next year? 20 in Shenzhen, 30 amongst Beijing fabs?)

I must stress again, an additional $1.6 billion capex for prepayment of early delivery of ASML machines represent a lot of scanners.
 

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Here are some things to think about. SMIC is projected to spend $6.6 billion in Capex this year. Huahong Grace has spending 665 million, which works out to be under $1 billion this year. Next year, Huahong Grace has projected to spend $600 million in 12 inch production and another $150 to $200 million in 8 inch production. We don't have the figure for SMIC for 2023 yet. In 2022 and 2023, Huahong Grace is adding about 30k wpm of 12-inch capacity each year. This does not include HLMC (fab 5 and 6). As of Q3 of 2022, SMIC capacity is 706k wpm in 8 inch equivalent. Including HLMC, Huahong is at about 500k wpm in 8 inch equivalent. so in terms of capacity, SMIC is only about 40% more than Huahong group, but it's doing significantly more advanced nodes.

if we just compare Capex of SMIC to Huahong for this year, the Capex they spend would be for production in 2023 and 2024 probably. SMIC is probably expanding production 50% more than hushing in absolute capacity. But their Capex is a 7 times as high! We know that Capex for 7 nm is probably 3 to 3.5 times as high as 65 to 90 nm segment. So in my humble opinion, this means a few things:
1) Huahong Grace's non-HLMC fabs are adding capacity to not only 55 to 90 nm, but also a lot of even more mature process. They are going hard into the industrial segment that are low cost and still under produced in mainland.
2) Huahong Grace is likely buying a lot of domestic tools which are cheaper than foreign tools. What do you think @tokenanalyst @PopularScience ?
3) SMIC is likely spending a lot of money with ASML to speed up delivery of the latest Arfi scanners. Due to their status as the premier chip maker in China, they are likely backed by local gov't who is willing to foot the bill for the latest Arfi scanners like 2050i/2100i which are quite a bit more expensive than 1950i/1980i but aren't as efficient in producing advanced nodes as EUVs. But since there is no alternative, Chinese gov't is willing to do this.
4) SMIC is likely paying extra for early delivery slots and for stocking up these latest Arfi scanners so they can guarantee delivery in 2023 for SMSC expansion in 2024/2025. My guess is they eventually go beyond 70k wpm between SN1/SN2.
5) For mature node production like the new 中芯京城 fab, SMIC is spending more Capex per 30k wpm than Huahong. This points to SMIC producing a lot more 28/40/45/55/65 nodes in its mature fab than Huahong.

I do think that Huahong will be moving up to more 28/40 in the future. It's second Wuxi fab is estimated to require $6.7 billion Capex for 83k wpm #19,299 . That is comparable to SMIC spending $7.5 billion Capex for 100k wpm at Tianjin.

On top of that, Shanghai Huali (HLMC) is supposedly going to have a 3rd fab announced in the near future.
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Notice in page 12, fab 9 just recently got announced with this second Wuxi fab news. Seems like there will be a third HLMC fab (fab 8) in Shanghai with total capacity of 40k wpm. I'm assuming news about this fab trickles out in the next year or so. I would guess this new fab would also be for 14/22/28 nm process.


SMIC is not TSMC. It's not spending $40 billion in Capex in 2022, but $6.6 billion is still a lot of money. You can also do more with that money in China and with Chinese tools vs building them in other countries and using only Western tools. UMC is only spending $3 billion in Capex this year (down from $3.6 billion)
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GlobalFoundries is spending less than $4 billion on Capex this year
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Even TSMC cut it's Capex to $36 billion for this year
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2) Huahong Grace is likely buying a lot of domestic tools which are cheaper than foreign tools. What do you think @tokenanalyst @PopularScience ?
According to the public bidding data looks like this year they are getting:
dry etching (Naura), dry cleaning (jet plasma), wet cleaning (ACM Shanghai), chemical mechanical polishing (Hwatsing), oxidation diffusion (Naura), back-end packaging (SMEE?) ;

CVD is probably AMAT, Probably because their process is already designed around that equipment.
 
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