yeah, that's very disappointing of YMTC to deceive customers.
earnings call transcript with SMIC, a few main points
- the long delivery time equipment that they were mentioned (which required the $1.6 billion in additional capex) are of two types: 1) lithography machines - 18 months to 2 years for delivery 2) companies with low production - 18 months for delivery
- They mentioned that they got some tools, but cannot increase production until they have received the other needed tools. Part of the reason for the prepayment is to lockdown delivery slots so they can ensure production increases
- my feeling is that when they talk about prepayment for early delivery of long delivery time equipment, they are mostly talking about ASML lithography machines and that they are not only acquiring more future delivery slots for ASML expansion, but also more immediate delivery slots. When other companies are cutting back capex for 2023, it opens up certain delivery slots that SMIC can take advantage of. This will probably materialize throughout 2023.
- As for impact sanctions, it seems like existing American customers have long term contracts with SMIC, but are unsure if the new sanctions would affect them. As such, they are working with customers to clear up concerns so they can continue production. Keep in mind US is 20% of their market and purchases MCU, LAN and other products.
- utilization will be lower in Q4 than Q3 due to continued to demand weakness. Revenue will also be lower due to lower utilization and price drops. Sounds like consumer electronics is a bulk of their revenue, so its weakness has a big effect on their bottom line. auto chips is still a small market so high demand in auto chips doesn't offset consumer electronics weaknesses.
- They had 15 to 16k employees last year and they are already over 20k employees now. Sounds like they are having much better success in retaining and developing talents. They need new engineers, managers and R&D talent.