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Just spending some more time ruminating on the news that Cambrian scored a 500 million RMB contract with Nanjian AI data center. To put things into perspective, It has only had 264 million RMB in the first 9 months of this year! And to put another thing into perspective, 500 million RMB is about $75 million (if we use a little under 7 as real exchange rate), which is about 1/5th of the money Nvidia lost in Q3 from not being able to sell AI GPUs in China. So by all measures, this is a huge contract and a huge boost to their development.

All of which made me think about other opportunities for Chinese AI chip makers. And there are quite a few.
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Like this one in Hangzhou for 350 million RMB for Zhejiang city university.

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or this one that supposedly will require 300 PFLOPS of data calculation at Huabei.

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And this one is Wuhan that requires 1 billion RMB investment

And there are more
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According to this, there are projects in the tens of billion RMB range being awarded. For example, Alibaba has a project requiring investment of over 23 billion RMB.
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Total investment of 400 billion RMB have been announced since February.
This one talks about China looking to get past 200 EFLOPS in total computation power among HPC center by end of 2023. They are looking to add 20% every year. In terms of domestic players, they talked about Phytium and Sugon involved in building these large computing data centers. Apparently, Sugon already has 100k clients both domestic/international.
It talked about using more and more domestic chips, but sounds like the FPGA products are still a little behind. Still need 3 to 5 years to get to 16/28 nm process

So there are a lot of money to be made here.
 

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KLA estimates up to $900m revenue hit in 2023 from China chip ban​

Latest export curb deals blow to major U.S. chipmaking tool suppliers.

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I think U.S. politicians massively underestimated the effects of this sanctions, I am starting to believe that all of this was politically motivated because the midterm elections like one the poster here said and they really don't understand the industry very well.
 

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KLA estimates up to $900m revenue hit in 2023 from China chip ban​

Latest export curb deals blow to major U.S. chipmaking tool suppliers.

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I think U.S. politicians massively underestimated the effects of this sanctions, I am starting to believe that all of this was politically motivated because the midterm elections like one the poster here said and they really don't understand the industry very well.

Isn't that par for the course for this admin?

Do you guys remember:
1) Supposed investigation into Wuhan laboratory they made a huge deal of in 2021
2) Afghan withdraw
3) Transitory inflation
4) Blowing up Nordstream 2, effectively neutering Europe's industrial capabilities.
5) Miraculously managing to piss off Iran and Saudi Arabia simultaneously.

This really is par for the course though. They didn't even properly consult semiconductor experts in the U.S., let alone allied nations, before coming up with these sanctions. And they have the galls to call Trump stupid and immature.
 

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Isn't that par for the course for this admin?

Do you guys remember:
1) Supposed investigation into Wuhan laboratory they made a huge deal of in 2021
2) Afghan withdraw
3) Transitory inflation
4) Blowing up Nordstream 2, effectively neutering Europe's industrial capabilities.
5) Miraculously managing to piss off Iran and Saudi Arabia simultaneously.

This really is par for the course though. They didn't even properly consult semiconductor experts in the U.S., let alone allied nations, before coming up with these sanctions. And they have the galls to call Trump stupid and immature.
The US Admin has finally done China a favour. These guys managed to do what the Chinese Govt tried unsucessfully to do for 25 years. They helped convince Chinese FABS to use 100% Local Semiconductor Equipment wherever possible.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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The US Admin has finally done China a favour. These guys managed to do what the Chinese Govt tried unsucessfully to do for 25 years. They helped convince Chinese FABS to use 100% Local Semiconductor Equipment wherever possible.
He lives! My guy... post!

In your view, can we consider 28nm completely indigenized now?
 

ansy1968

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The US Admin has finally done China a favour. These guys managed to do what the Chinese Govt tried unsucessfully to do for 25 years. They helped convince Chinese FABS to use 100% Local Semiconductor Equipment wherever possible.
Sir the after effect of Xi snubbed....lol

Blinken- how about sanctioning Russia.
Wang Yi- FU!!!! or Kutabare!!!!

Yellen- how about buying our T bills.
Liu Kun- I have enough tissue paper.

Brandon- Can we talk
Xi- Talk to the Hand.
 
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