Chinese semiconductor industry
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I think this is old news: China already started the mass production of 14 nm chips.
I don't have the expertise to judge the merit of what this article says. But it claims that you can build an exascale computer with 14 nm chips.
This reminds me of the story that a 10 years old girl got pregnant after being raped. Yes, a ten year old American girl - how can you get pregnant when only ten years old? Maybe it's something in what you eat?
I found this podcast quite interesting, especially the comment that the new sanctions may have been rushed not because of the pending mid term elections but because the US had intelligence suggesting that if they did not act right now it would be too late. What that might mean or how accurate that is I have no idea!
The cat is out of the bag anyway. Even two years ago YMTC was already delivering product, and SMIC was already shipping mass produced 14nm chips. Over the next two years the current Chinese expansion would lead to a certain critical mass of products which would make China an even larger contender and move closer to the #2 position in the semi industry next to South Korea. These sanctions might put a crimp on that but I think it is still too early to examine the results. The way the US government put these sanctions into place was half-hazard at best.
I hope the Chinese government and industry finally wake up and put more direction into the efforts of having a standalone Chinese semi industry in a more integrated fashion. There is no good reason why the Chinese industry still does not make its own tools and equipment in a significant enough fashion. When Japan did its rampout in the 1980s the state identified the tools as a critical issue and put two separate companies, Nikon, and Canon, working on lithography for example and each was tasked with solving a separate problem and both companies were forced to cooperate with each other. Nothing on that scale is happening in China.
With regards to the news about 14nm mass production in Shanghai, actually that is news, since the only existing 14nm mass production in China was at SMIC Shenzen. This line might either be SMIC Shanghai or HLMC Shanghai.
I hope the Chinese government and industry finally wake up and put more direction into the efforts of having a standalone Chinese semi industry in a more integrated fashion. There is no good reason why the Chinese industry still does not make its own tools and equipment in a significant enough fashion. When Japan did its rampout in the 1980s the state identified the tools as a critical issue and put two separate companies, Nikon, and Canon, working on lithography for example and each was tasked with solving a separate problem and both companies were forced to cooperate with each other. Nothing on that scale is happening in China.
With regards to the news about 14nm mass production in Shanghai, actually that is news, since the only existing 14nm mass production in China was at SMIC Shenzen. This line might either be SMIC Shanghai or HLMC Shanghai.
They don't need intelligence people suggesting that. They just need some guys with semi-decent knowledge of semiconductor industry lurking around this thread in the last two years. Heck, just last year or so would be enough.
Thought to share my effort to procure DRAM using CXMT chips. Found this netac rbg ddr4 sporting CXMT ic on some chinese review sites, contacted the official seller on aliexpress, but they cant promise to send out those specifically which ones.
I’ve read that most of the memories produced will satisfy domestic demand first.
AssassinsMace
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In fact, due to the profit-seeking domestic companies (hedge funds), the government before 2016 spent a lot of money on chip projects and manufacturing equipment... I see that domestic companies are only care about profit... they don't care about R&D, and most companies don't know what is R&D ...
@supercat bro and @antiterror13 Sir this YT video may collaborate my previous post regarding the 22nm chip use in Aviation and Space industries.
ansy1968 said:
Sir I have NO available info regarding the 14nm chip so forgive me BUT as the Chinese had fully indigenized the 14nm process node maybe they have as for the 22nm chip it had been in used since 2020 or earlier.
Nov 24, 2020 — A more advanced chip is ready for the market. The chip will support dual-frequency positioning, which will further increase the accuracy of the ...
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ansy1968 said:
Sir I have NO available info regarding the 14nm chip so forgive me BUT as the Chinese had fully indigenized the 14nm process node maybe they have as for the 22nm chip it had been in used since 2020 or earlier.
Nov 24, 2020 — A more advanced chip is ready for the market. The chip will support dual-frequency positioning, which will further increase the accuracy of the ...
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