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ZeEa5KPul

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The trolls posting these articles to gloat are just underlining how much progress China has been made and how futile America's efforts to stop it are. The US is now just a desperate, deranged lunatic ranting and raving and sinking deeper into delusion and psychosis. China, as usual, is just making progress - 28nm conquered, 14nm conquered, 7nm falling faster than America's sanity.

I cannot wait to see the psychotic break in the US when China delivers its first EUV scanner. It's going to be a thing of absolute beauty.
 

Overbom

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I actually found it very neutral and even apprehensive in tone
Now the United States has gone all-in—wagering like never before and placing its cards on the table for all to see. The decisive American gamble: to openly block China’s path to become an advanced economic peer, even at significant risk to U.S. and allied interests.
In the article they say the US has gone "all-in".
While Republicans and Democrats may see that as positive because with going all in they can win everything, however this also means that if they lose, they lose everything

That's why you rarely see countries going "all-in". While the upsides are very attractive, the downsides are horrible enough to shake you out of delusional dreams about going all in.

Given the current trajectory, if I was to bet on if the US will win its "all-in" game against China, I would say that the US will lose big time
 

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The team of Sun Bo of Shenzhen International Graduate School has made new progress in the thermal conduction mechanism of metal-semiconductor interface

Tsinghua News, October 12.
With the increasing performance of semiconductor devices, especially the development of size miniaturization and high power density, heat dissipation has become one of the technical bottlenecks restricting the stability, reliability, and life of semiconductor devices. Especially for nanoscale semiconductor devices, increasing the thermal conductivity of the interface is a key part of improving the heat dissipation performance. Therefore, the study of interfacial heat transport has important application value and scientific significance for the heat dissipation of semiconductor devices.
Generally speaking, for the interface (semiconductor-semiconductor or metal-semiconductor) in semiconductor devices, the traditional diffusion mismatch model (DMM) considers the phonon transport at the interface to be an elastic process, that is, the phonon passing through the interface does not change in energy . Since the phonons are all excited at the Debye temperature, at high temperature (that is, the temperature is higher than the Debye temperature), the energy of phonons passing through the interface no longer changes with temperature, and the interface thermal conductivity shows a saturation trend. However, compared with the theoretical model, the conditions for improving the thermal conductivity of the interface are still insufficient experimentally.
In response to the above problems, Sun Bo's team from Shenzhen International Graduate School of Tsinghua University cooperated with Gu Xiaokun's team from Shanghai Jiaotong University and Wang Xinqiang's team from Peking University to try to explore the conditions for improving the thermal conductivity of the interface. The team used molecular beam epitaxy (MBE) to prepare two Al/Si interfaces with atomically flat and 1nm interdiffusion layers by precisely controlling the growth conditions. The interfacial thermal conductivity at different temperatures was accurately measured by time-domain thermal reflectometry (TDTR). It is found that the thermal conductivity of the rough interface tends to be saturated at high temperature, which is consistent with the traditional diffusion mismatch model; while the thermal conductivity of the flat interface increases with temperature at high temperature, which is deviating from the traditional theory, and is also observed on the flat Al/GaN interface. to a similar phenomenon. Theoretical calculations show that the thermal conductivity of the flat interface increases with temperature due to the inelastic transport process of phonons at the interface. At the flat interface, the transmission ability of phonons shows stronger frequency dependence, which makes the phonon nonequilibrium more pronounced at the interface, and promotes the inelastic transformation between phonons, so that the thermal conductivity of the interface exhibits a high temperature. Stronger temperature dependence. This study found an inelastic phonon transport process at the atomically flat Al/Si, Al/GaN interface, which is regarded as an additional phonon transport channel at the interface, which can improve the thermal conductivity of the interface, thereby Improve the thermal performance of the interface. This study resolves a long-standing debate on the mechanism of interfacial phonon inelasticity and has implications for thermal management in semiconductor devices.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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With the rather unusually little news coverage on the recent US chip tech ban against China on that I could find on Baidu and Bilibili, some say that this could only mean one thing: The chip tech ban this time really does hurt China's semiconductor industry real bad. Like, it has caused pendemonium across the semiconductor industry in China, according to one (alleged) industry insider.

Many Bilibili comments in reaction to the news can only be described as doom and gloom.

Can we get a hold on any industry insider to share with us the actual and up-to-date situation in China, and their future measures to combat it, if any? I'm very, very worried about the development of the situation.

In all honesty, if this cannot be described as an outright declaration of war of annihilation by the US against the civilization state and the people of China in its entirety, I have no other words that could be used to describe it.

Washington DC is now hell bent on utterly destroying China and forcing the Chinese people to kneel and suffer through another round of Century of Humiliation. Hell, I bet the hawks in DC wouldn't even hesitate to deploy the nukes if doing so would wipe the Chinese off the face of the Earth and secure American global dominance for the next decade or century. There is no second guessing about it.

For China, this is a war for survival.

Therefore, this leaves only two choices for China.

Either China wins her struggle and emerge victorious against her enemies, or China would fade away in the pages of history textbooks and descend into irrelevance. I hope everyone in China and anyone else who supports China know what should be done.
 

Overbom

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With the rather unusually little news coverage on the recent US chip tech ban against China on that I could find on Baidu and Bilibili, some say that this could only mean one thing: The chip tech ban this time really does hurt China's semiconductor industry real bad. Like, it has caused pendemonium across the semiconductor industry in China, according to one (alleged) industry insider.

Many Bilibili comments in reaction to the news can only be described as doom and gloom.

Can we get a hold on any industry insider to share with us the actual and up-to-date situation in China, and their future measures to combat it, if any? I'm very, very worried about the development of the situation.

In all honesty, if this cannot be described as an outright declaration of war of annihilation by the US against the civilization state and the people of China in its entirety, I have no other words that could be used to describe it.

Washington DC is now hell bent on utterly destroying China and forcing the Chinese people to kneel and suffer through another round of Century of Humiliation. Hell, I bet the hawks in DC wouldn't even hesitate to deploy the nukes if doing so would wipe the Chinese off the face of the Earth and secure American global dominance for the next decade or century. There is no second guessing about it.

For China, this is a war for survival.

Therefore, this leaves only two choices for China.

Either China wins her struggle and emerge victorious against her enemies, or China would fade away in the pages of history textbooks and descend into irrelevance. I hope everyone in China and anyone else who supports China know what should be done.
Bruh.
This war started in 2017. Dunno why it took you so long to realise that.

Also, the doom and gloom you say, thats nothing in comparison to the trade war reaction. And we all know how that trade war thing turned out

Btw no need for anger or morale boosting posts. China's fundamentals are the same, no matter what the US or anyone else does. As long as China does a good job internally, all the enemies will be swept away
 

Pkp88

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Bruh.
This war started in 2017. Dunno why it took you so long to realise that.

Also, the doom and gloom you say, thats nothing in comparison to the trade war reaction. And we all know how that trade war thing turned out

Btw no need for anger or morale posts. China's fundamentals are the same, no matter what the US or anyone else does. As long as China does a good job internally, all the enemies will be swept away
Just to put things in context early 2000s ppl had to smuggle in PlayStations from HK given restrictions. So been worse
 

Topazchen

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With the rather unusually little news coverage on the recent US chip tech ban against China on that I could find on Baidu and Bilibili, some say that this could only mean one thing: The chip tech ban this time really does hurt China's semiconductor industry real bad. Like, it has caused pendemonium across the semiconductor industry in China, according to one (alleged) industry insider.

Many Bilibili comments in reaction to the news can only be described as doom and gloom.

Can we get a hold on any industry insider to share with us the actual and up-to-date situation in China, and their future measures to combat it, if any? I'm very, very worried about the development of the situation.

In all honesty, if this cannot be described as an outright declaration of war of annihilation by the US against the civilization state and the people of China in its entirety, I have no other words that could be used to describe it.

Washington DC is now hell bent on utterly destroying China and forcing the Chinese people to kneel and suffer through another round of Century of Humiliation. Hell, I bet the hawks in DC wouldn't even hesitate to deploy the nukes if doing so would wipe the Chinese off the face of the Earth and secure American global dominance for the next decade or century. There is no second guessing about it.

For China, this is a war for survival.

Therefore, this leaves only two choices for China.

Either China wins her struggle and emerge victorious against her enemies, or China would fade away in the pages of history textbooks and descend into irrelevance. I hope everyone in China and anyone else who supports China know what should be done.
Those are defeatist comments by people who don't know about the restrictions or current Chinese semiconductor indigenous efforts .
 
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