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BoraTas

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CHIPS act doesn't work. there's some things you can't throw money at, it'll just go down a black hole.

Prime example: Indian industry. Ford left India after decades of losing money, and Indian auto industry is still shit, while just 10 years of Ford leapfrogged Russia from medieval monarchy to socialist superpower.

The whole affirmative action woke STEM initiative thing is not working. College enrollment rates are dropping like a rock. So are test scores. Bad materials = bad product.
American far-right (Republicans) has been deeply anti-intellectualist for 30 years and the right (Democrats) has become an affirmative-action supporter. This is a horrible combination for the academy of a country. They can not depend on immigration forever especially against a nation with 1.44 billion people.
 

Overbom

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Best counter argument is what about Japan during the 80s. It even had U.S. military bases and was an important ally for containing the Soviet Union. Why Plaza Accord then?
No need to bring in logic. This is a war. If tomorrow the US announced a full on chip embargo to China I wouldn't bat an eye

Everything is fair in war. No need to debate or argue or try to find reason. Just strive to become strong, and when you become strong, crush them all
 

siegecrossbow

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No need to bring in logic. This is a war. If tomorrow the US announced a full on chip embargo to China I wouldn't bat an eye

Everything is fair in war. No need to debate or argue or try to find reason. Just strive to become strong, and when you become strong, crush them all

I am just saying that it is stupid to think that the U.S. hates Xi, not China. If Hu were still in charge he'd be sanctioned too.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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Best counter argument is what about Japan during the 80s. It even had U.S. military bases and was an important ally for containing the Soviet Union. Why Plaza Accord then?
I am just saying that it is stupid to think that the U.S. hates Xi, not China. If Hu were still in charge he'd be sanctioned too.
The point you made is even stronger than that. The US militarily occupies Japan and wrote its constitution. You literally cannot get a more servile state and they still got Plaza'd.
 

manqiangrexue

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I am just saying that it is stupid to think that the U.S. hates Xi, not China. If Hu were still in charge he'd be sanctioned too.
Nobody's really that stupid; it's driven by fear. If you can fool yourself into thinking that you're up against a person or a government with the Chinese population neutral or even rearing to get on your side for "freedom," that's a winnable fight. Now if you have to face the reality that you've got a population of 330 million mostly lazy liberal arts majors against a population of 1.4 billion mostly STEM focused tiger mom-raised overachievers, you can't logically conclude anything other than that it's just a matter of time before you get wrecked.
 

gadgetcool5

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Best counter argument is what about Japan during the 80s. It even had U.S. military bases and was an important ally for containing the Soviet Union. Why Plaza Accord then?
The Plaza Accord is not to blame for Japan's continual dysfunction and decline even today. The Americans long since forgot about Japan. If they wanted to, they could get their act together but they don't.
 

olalavn

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The US is against Xi not China.
in China, Xi vs. speculative capital... western countries hate Xi, because they are losing business to domestic Chinese companies... Xi is agreed with it by CPC members, irony... U.S and western don't understand Chinese...Western think capitalists in China have the right to have a big say in China? they think as simple as the screws of their think tanks...
 
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