I think some people in this thread are overly optimistic but other people in this thread are overly pessimistic. The number of people standing in the middle ground most likely reflecting where the true state of things are is pretty small. This isn’t that surprising though tbh, since most people are either dreamers or “show me” types in how they appraise these things things. I think more complicated reality is that very real progress is being made, and being made faster and more significantly than what a lot of naysayers believe, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t still some ways to go before that progress has matured enough to be obvious and visible to average bystanders.
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amazing news.
but link is not working. can you please post again. its much needed. thank you
In theory yes, even ASML does some research in China, but the Chinese are better capitalists than the capitalist themselves, the Americans are depleting and weakening their economic arsenal by using sanctions willy-nilly, the Chinese have no used they rare earth monopoly and the reason is because, why? they are making money from it. They know once they start to using it they will be depleting it as companies with time find alternatives. What the Chinese use is their consumer demand, the goverment don't even have to make it public. The vast Chinese state sector just shift their suppliers as they wish.so, can China ban the sales of nVidia chip to the US defence that partly developed in China ?
The whole translation is the content, doesn't say anymore than that.
fine. but sometimes people don't believe they demand link. this is why i m asking you.
coz this is a very critical breakthrough.
I think the description of what OCD equipment should do. make sure that the critical layers of your chip have de right dimensions and orientations using the diffraction of light.
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exactly, in theory, China could ban anything made and designed in China to any defence contractors in the US or other countries, including rare earth, bolt, nut, metals, IC, etc ... let see what happen ?
The metrology field has been growing fast in China in the last few years.
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And that is not counting the ones in who do equipment metrology in packaging
In theory yes. They will do it? no, that is why I said they are better capitalists than the capitalist themselves and the effectiveness of such ban will be questionable at best. Having a monopoly on rare earths give the Chinese unprecedented power on the global supply and the price of such materials, why they want to ruin that?
The Japanese are too proud to be in an alliance with China because that would make them the junior partner. They submit to the US, because the US dropped the atomic bomb on them.
Commercially it makes sense for Japan to sell all manner of sophisticated manufacturing equipment and components to Chinese purchasers. China is still willing to permit market share to them even in the long term future, even when there will be commercially competitive Chinese competitors. But that window is closing and it will eventually close totally if Japan joins the United States in economic warfare against China.
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