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They have found a solution regarding their RF problem.

Radio frequency for phones: Huawei doesn’t need U.S.​


Donald Trump and others in D.C. are completely certain Huawei needs parts from America. That’s total hubris. Huawei designs its own custom chips for mobile, led by the Kirin 980 & 990. Screens, power supplies, and just about everything are available outside the US.
The one major exception – until now – was RF (radio frequency) parts. 5G phones must support over two dozen frequency bands. They must filter out unwanted signals, perform error correction, and amplify what often will be very weak signals, all at very high 5G speeds.
The problem is mostly solved. The top of the line Mate 30 only requires 2 US parts. Huawei and suppliers like Murata Japan will soon be able to replace those as well. Chinese universities and military suppliers already produce state of the art chips.
Skyworks, Qorvo, Qualcomm, and Broadcom, $200B of US companies, had been dominant. They will inevitably lose some orders. If the Huawei blockade becomes permanent or other Chinese phone companies switch to alternate suppliers, these companies will suffer. See
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Susquehanna analyst Christopher Rolland reports, “After discussions with Huawei, we believe the company has found alternatives to most U.S. RF solutions, … There is a Chinese teardown of the Mate 30 5G making its rounds and garnering a lot of attention in the handset supply chain. In conclusion, the flagship handset uses very few American RF components (perhaps just a few QRVO and SWKS parts in the antenna tuning switch). To address 5G, the handset reportedly utilizes a Murata FEM. To address 4G, the handset reportedly utilizes a combination of both Murata and HiSilicon! While there is some debate about the components in the HiSilicon FEM, and where HiSilcon actually has the technical capabilities to do their own filtering, the part still garners its marking. We believe HiSilicon has been manufacturing a design of their own power amplifiers through Win Semi for some time now, but the full FEM would represent an increase in capabilities.”
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“We expect China to be the biggest 5G smartphone market next year, but the trade war is likely to exclude US RF suppliers,” according to a research note from KeyBanc. “Feedback from Asia indicates Huawei plans to ship 100M 5G smartphones in 2020, which would represent over one third of the company’s shipments. With the U.S. entity ban list, we believe Huawei has most aggressively moved to non-U.S. sources of supply for RF, while other OEMs such as Oppo/Vivo and Xiaomi have also taken measures to increasingly source from non U.S.-suppliers, but to a more moderate shift as compared to Huawei. On the modem front, Huawei will use its internal HiSilicon-based Kirin 5G modem, while other Chinese OEMs are expected to use Mediatek’s 5G modem, which is expected to be ready by the end of the year.”
The trade war is also accelerating Huawei’s push towards internal ASICs and away from third-party FPGAs, according to KeyBanc. “Feedback from Asia indicates Huawei has been able to redesign its 5G base station in the baseband and the radio head or active antenna unit (AAU) to minimize the use of FPGAs. In some instances, we believe Huawei will only require the use of one XLNX FPGA in its base station,” according to the firm. “Huawei (is) aggressively transitioning its 5G base station platforms away from XLNX and toward HiSilicon ASICs
Relying on any American ally for supply is like relying on the United States itself. Unless, China has domestic suppliers capable of producing needed products of comparable quality to the ones it also purchases from foreign suppliers, especially US allies, China remains highly vulnerable.
 

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I see that you are just hatched... You will need to be doing much research going back a few years, but this thread and this forum generallu is the right thread to do it. Search type "DUV", "EUV", "SSMB", "steady state microbunching", "nanoimprint lithography", "ASML", "SMEE", "Nikon", "Canon" . These will give you the best search results.
I read this forums for a year, but I've just ringistered not long ago.
 

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Another important breakthrough in the research and development of vertical channel nanotransistors of the Institute of Microelectronics​

Source of the manuscript: Xiao Zhongrui, Cui Dongmeng, Pilot Center Release time: 2022-08-17

Vertical channel nanodevices have great application potential in advanced integrated circuit manufacturing technology of 1nm logic device/10nm DRAM memory and below technology generation due to their natural advantages such as small gate length restriction, flexible wiring and easy 3D integrated integration .
  Large-scale fabrication of vertical-channel nanotransistors requires precise control of their channel dimensions and gate length. For high-performance vertical single-crystal channel nanotransistors, the best way to control the channel size at this stage is to use advanced lithography and etching technology, but the control accuracy of this technology is limited, resulting in excessive fluctuations in device performance, which cannot meet the large-scale integrated circuit requirements. requirements for advanced manufacturing.
  On the basis of realizing precise control of gate length and position, the research team of Zhu Huilong from the Integrated Circuit Advanced Process Research and Development Center of the Institute of Microelectronics proposed and developed a new vertical device ( VCNFET ) with a C -type single crystal nanosheet channel and The " new double-sided processing process " compatible with CMOS technology has the outstanding advantage that the channel thickness and gate length / position are defined by the thickness of the epitaxial layer film and can be controlled at the nanometer level, laying a solid foundation for the large-scale manufacturing of high-performance devices. Basically , the developed silicon-based devices have subthreshold swing ( SS ) and leakage induced barrier lowering ( DIBL ) of 61mV/dec and 8mV/V , respectively, with a current switching ratio of up to 6.28x10 9 , and excellent electrical performance.
Recently, the research results were published in IEEE Electron Device Letters ( DOI: 10.1109/ LED.2022.3187006 ), Xiao Zhongrui, a doctoral student at the Pilot Center, is the first author of this paper, and researcher Zhu Huilong is the corresponding author.
  The research was funded by projects from the Ministry of Science and Technology, the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the Beijing Superstring Memory Research Institute.
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Fig.1 (a) TEM cross-sectional view of vertical nanosheet device (b) nanobeam diffraction pattern at the center of device channel (c) TEM top view of epitaxial silicon channel (d)-(f) EDS energy spectrum of device cross-section
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Figure 2. Transfer output characteristic curves of vertical nanosheet devices​
 

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The aftermath of the FORCED Divorce, will XMAGE, the new bride able to fill the shoes that Leica once provide?


Over the past years,
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has achieved significant advancements in mobile camera technology including incredible and unique features. Huawei previously used the
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imaging techs, and now working to Collab with its new
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technology for its upcoming smartphone.
The company gained a new height with the Leica in the field of mobile photography. Their partnership started with the 2016 release of the Huawei P9. Huawei remained committed and stated that it would continue to work on developing its P10 and P20 series smartphones’ camera technologies. So it does.
XMAGE imaging system is built by Huawei after ending its partnership with Leica. However, as per the leaks, the XMAGE camera technology is much more compatible and futuristic than the Leica.
Hence, Leica recently build its partnership with Xiaomi and has already launched its new collaboration with the
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smartphone series. But still, there is no information come about the new XMAGE camera technology packed with smartphone
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Leica camera technology timeline:​

German-based Leica is well renowned for its portrait and street photography. The company was founded in 1914 and makes optical lenses and cameras. And after collaborating with Huawei, Leica ups its standards for quality with each new top model from Huawei.
Engineers from Huawei brought a sample of the phone to Leica, where they were delighted to see that Leica laboratories were using the same testing procedures and apparatus to evaluate cameras. Devices with top-notch camera hardware and a smartphone were intended, and technical advancements by Huawei led to the creation of the mutual product.
However, Huawei is known for its development and new technology, with its past experience in the camera imaging system, Huawei has now developed its own camera technology known as the XMAGE for the future generation of flagship models.

XMAGE camera technology timeline:​

The Huawei XMAGE camera technology has been launched in July and made available for a summary of the company’s prior innovations in the field of imaging and our dedication to furthering its investigation in the future.
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This new XMAGE camera technology may be introduced for the upcoming smartphone with the promise of ultra-quality images to capture your real-time moment with a clear view. However, the company mainly concentrating on three fields, which include, technological innovation, shooting experience, and imaging culture. However, we also noted that image color reproduction will also be enhanced with this new camera tech.
Notably, the Huawei XMAGE imaging is developed to give new eyes to upcoming
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It is packed with so unique innovative technology to give ultra-clear images to the smartphone. Meanwhile, Huawei doesn’t say anything about the launch of upcoming flagship model houses with XMAGE cameras.

Huawei Mate 50 and possibility:​

Huawei Mate 50 smartphone series is about to hit the market, it will be the first smartphone to launch post-Leica breakup. So the hint is pretty clear that the Mate 50 will bring us the first view at XMAGE. However, as we already mentioned the company hasn’t said anything about the XMAGE and
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but we’ll let you know the development in this story.
Huawei Mate 50 is the next upcoming flagship series of the company and is to bear all the latest technology including the processor and design aspects.
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On the other hand, the smartphone will become powerful enough to compete with other premium models on the market after implementation. A direct confrontation is likely to be with iPhone 14.
Not only, the Mate 50 series, but the upcoming
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, P60, and
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smartphone lineup are also inclined to launch in the near future. All the models are flagship range.
Meanwhile, the XMAGE camera should launch with all these upcoming smartphones. But it will be interesting to see how Huawei represent the start of XMAGE in the smartphone world.
Huawei Leica and xmage camera

Well, the expectation is high for the XMAGE camera technology to bear with the upcoming flagship series including the Mate 50, Huawei P60, and the successor of the Mate 50 – Mate 60 smartphone series. We’ll see what XMAGE has to offer for the consumers.

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17 hours ago — After a breakup with Leica, Huawei has launched XMAGE camera imaging technology for future flagship device, will it defeat an older camera ...
 
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Of all the bans, from the Americans trying to subvert Chinese progress in supercomputers, telecommunications, space exploration, and semiconductors, this has to be the worst and dumbest one of all.

All it is, it is software. Just lines and lines of code.

They actually know what that code is suppose to do. Monkey see, monkey do, you know. If Synopsys software has this feature, just code it in.

Problem solved. Where are they gonna find those coders? It's China. Everyone takes math. Lots of geeky computer programmers too. They don't write spaghetti code!

What this software does, it kind of integrates the entire production line. Besides using it to design the chip, the software must work with the equipment. I could be wrong here, since I am not an expert.

It seems like common sense, that if the EDA is capable of doing a 1 billion circuit design, then there has to be a way to interface with the machine to do that in production. No human can do it. It is all machines and software.

The EDA is kind of like the brain of the entire system. It has to work with all parts of it.

At this point, no American EDA means it is completely pointless for Chinese IC companies to try to buy some American machine for IC.

The US government is legislating all US companies IC equipment makers out of the China market with this EDA ban.

Why?

Give it a few months at the most, and they would have pirated or replaced this EDA.

The US government is utterly clueless when it comes to this stuff. Their prized results are:- no more China market, corporate welfare for Intel, and overcapacity.

Like, duh!

:oops:


I will tell you a funny story, back when I was a kid maybe 12 or 13 our family purchased very first computer a Packard Bell Pentium I at 75Mhz with one gig harddrive and 16mb ram running Windows 95.

I was very interested in cgi and animation and mspaint and corel painter I had outgrown. Few years later we upgraded to Windows 98 and this was at height of dot com bubble and every company was giving free samples, I got Discrete to mail me a CDROM with 3D Studio Max 3 on it as a fully functional 30 day timed trial...

This software retailed for $3500 USD, back then this was a lot of money more than my father monthly salary at the time, and as a young teenager my allowance was only $30 a month.

So after a month I thought I was smart and tried to uninstall and reinstall 3ds max to reset the timer. Didnt work.

So I decided to completely reformat the computer and reinstall Windows 98, but to my shock and surprise it still recognized the software had already been on the machine before. Even though I had not yet connected the computer online, since back then it was the sqeaky dial up modem from AOL discs...

Eventually I found out it was a French antipiracy software called "cdilla" that installed on my machine and wrote a sequence of numbers to the service sector of the harddrive that survives reformatting (back then I didnt know how to do a bit by bit low level reformat)

The full version of 3ds max 3 used a physical dongle that you had to keep plugged into the back of the computer motherboard via a rs232 serial port...

I tried to find a crack from the search engine altalavista but nothing ever came up... no one had published a workaround

I had given up all hope but during a family trip back to China over the summer I was browsing software selection (all pirated) on the streets with my cousin and lo and beheld I came across full working version of 3ds max and it was only 10 Chinese yuan... I told my parents I just saved enough from this to have covered our entire costs of vacation back home
 

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The aftermath of the FORCED Divorce, will XMAGE, the new bride able to fill the shoes that Leica once provide?


Over the past years,
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has achieved significant advancements in mobile camera technology including incredible and unique features. Huawei previously used the
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imaging techs, and now working to Collab with its new
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technology for its upcoming smartphone.
The company gained a new height with the Leica in the field of mobile photography. Their partnership started with the 2016 release of the Huawei P9. Huawei remained committed and stated that it would continue to work on developing its P10 and P20 series smartphones’ camera technologies. So it does.
XMAGE imaging system is built by Huawei after ending its partnership with Leica. However, as per the leaks, the XMAGE camera technology is much more compatible and futuristic than the Leica.
Hence, Leica recently build its partnership with Xiaomi and has already launched its new collaboration with the
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smartphone series. But still, there is no information come about the new XMAGE camera technology packed with smartphone
ADVERTISEMENT

Leica camera technology timeline:​

German-based Leica is well renowned for its portrait and street photography. The company was founded in 1914 and makes optical lenses and cameras. And after collaborating with Huawei, Leica ups its standards for quality with each new top model from Huawei.
Engineers from Huawei brought a sample of the phone to Leica, where they were delighted to see that Leica laboratories were using the same testing procedures and apparatus to evaluate cameras. Devices with top-notch camera hardware and a smartphone were intended, and technical advancements by Huawei led to the creation of the mutual product.
However, Huawei is known for its development and new technology, with its past experience in the camera imaging system, Huawei has now developed its own camera technology known as the XMAGE for the future generation of flagship models.

XMAGE camera technology timeline:​

The Huawei XMAGE camera technology has been launched in July and made available for a summary of the company’s prior innovations in the field of imaging and our dedication to furthering its investigation in the future.
ADVERTISEMENT

This new XMAGE camera technology may be introduced for the upcoming smartphone with the promise of ultra-quality images to capture your real-time moment with a clear view. However, the company mainly concentrating on three fields, which include, technological innovation, shooting experience, and imaging culture. However, we also noted that image color reproduction will also be enhanced with this new camera tech.
Notably, the Huawei XMAGE imaging is developed to give new eyes to upcoming
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
It is packed with so unique innovative technology to give ultra-clear images to the smartphone. Meanwhile, Huawei doesn’t say anything about the launch of upcoming flagship model houses with XMAGE cameras.

Huawei Mate 50 and possibility:​

Huawei Mate 50 smartphone series is about to hit the market, it will be the first smartphone to launch post-Leica breakup. So the hint is pretty clear that the Mate 50 will bring us the first view at XMAGE. However, as we already mentioned the company hasn’t said anything about the XMAGE and
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
but we’ll let you know the development in this story.
Huawei Mate 50 is the next upcoming flagship series of the company and is to bear all the latest technology including the processor and design aspects.
ADVERTISEMENT

On the other hand, the smartphone will become powerful enough to compete with other premium models on the market after implementation. A direct confrontation is likely to be with iPhone 14.
Not only, the Mate 50 series, but the upcoming
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, P60, and
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smartphone lineup are also inclined to launch in the near future. All the models are flagship range.
Meanwhile, the XMAGE camera should launch with all these upcoming smartphones. But it will be interesting to see how Huawei represent the start of XMAGE in the smartphone world.
Huawei Leica and xmage camera

Well, the expectation is high for the XMAGE camera technology to bear with the upcoming flagship series including the Mate 50, Huawei P60, and the successor of the Mate 50 – Mate 60 smartphone series. We’ll see what XMAGE has to offer for the consumers.

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17 hours ago — After a breakup with Leica, Huawei has launched XMAGE camera imaging technology for future flagship device, will it defeat an older camera ...
Leica is overrated and so was Hasselbrad, which DJI bought it mainly for their brand recognition...
 

ansy1968

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Leica is overrated and so was Hasselbrad, which DJI bought it mainly for their brand recognition...
I know I know, I think Leica is having its regrets cause partnering with Xiaomi is like trying to relive that experiences again BUT with a lesser partner...lol It haven't move on unlike Huawei which find a new willing partner hahaha, you see @Loveleenkr being Chinese is beautiful and don't look for foreigner as you may suffer the same regrets...lol
 

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From FocusTaiwan, I'm really felt the High from the effect of Copium and Hopium of this article...lol Justifying the sale of the Family Jewel is Because of CHYNNA. ;) Well I have news for them, history will judge them harshly and will be condemn for being traitors of the Han race.

U.S.-led chip alliance aimed at curbing China influence: Analyst​

08/21/2022 05:52 PM

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Taipei, Aug. 21 (CNA) A United States-led proposed chip alliance is aimed not only at boosting chip production but is also seen as a U.S. move to counter China's growing influence in the global chip market, a Taiwanese economic analyst said Sunday.
The Chip 4 alliance is a proposed alliance of semiconductor powerhouses in the U.S., Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea to enhance cooperation on the design and production of sophisticated semiconductors.
As a preliminary meeting of the alliance is reportedly expected to take place at the end of August or in early September, Taiwan's Ministry of Economic Affairs has proposed to continue collaborating with the U.S. on supply chain resilience and industrial cooperation as well as semiconductor supply security.
Roy Lee (李淳), deputy executive director of the Taiwan WTO & RTA Center at the Chung-Hua Institution for Economic Research, said that the ministry's proposal to cooperate on supply chain security was made with Taiwan's needs in mind.
Although Taiwan is strong in semiconductor foundries, it relies on the U. S. and Japan for the supply of equipment and materials, Lee said, adding that there are areas where the three countries are reliant on each other.
If the U.S. aims only to bring semiconductor production back home, it actually only needs to negotiate with individual countries, said Lee.

As such, it is believed that the U.S. may want to work with Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea to impose controls on semiconductor exports and technology outflows and thus form an anti-China group to exclude China from global semiconductor supply chains, Lee explained.
However, the U.S. proposal might put a certain amount of pressure on South Korea due to its economic ties with China, its biggest trade partner, so Washington wanted to first talk with Seoul to see whether it will join the Chip 4, said Lee.
China, including Hong Kong, accounts for almost 60 percent of the total exports of South Korean chips, according to a report in The Korea Herald, South Korea's largest English-language daily, which presents a dilemma for South Korea in having to choose between the technology of the U.S. and the market of China.
Regarding the pros and cons of Taiwan's participation in the Chip 4 alliance, Lee suggested that Taiwan should participate, given the close semiconductor links between Taiwan and the U.S., especially regarding supply chains and intelligence gathering.
Last month, the U.S. Congress passed the CHIPS Act of 2022 to strengthen domestic semiconductor manufacturing, design, and research. In addition, Washington has also been promoting the Chip 4 alliance and announced a ban on exports of advanced electronic design automation (EDA) software tools for 3-nm and other advanced chips to China in efforts to curb the development of China's chip industry.
 
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