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ougoah

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You know, I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion that this is yet another one of the "personalities" of a certain mentally-ill banned user.

Almost definitely is. Same roundabout methods and using very ambiguous tones and statements that don't get to the point but does insinuate. It's very Indian actually. They don't like details and speaking clearly. It's all allusions and planting ideas because they know you can address and explain all of them very easily or embarrass their moronic thinking.
 

TD739

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Ergh I'm tired of this. Whatever let's leave this then. Let's wind things back a bit. This guy was a trickster who got his position at SJTU based almost entirely on his swindling of the university and government officials. However, he was caught very quickly and all the right things were done by Chinese gov and SJTU. The whole thing was even made rather public probably in an effort to look more accountable. So on the whole, meh. I don't see what the big deal over this issue is and you are hiding it like this 2006 speck of news is some holy grail.

Can you please explain clearly what you actually mean with your own words? Is it one of the below??

1. China wasted big money on him
2. China wasted big time on him
3. Other - please elaborate.




The only worthwhile point being raised is the presence of this kind of fraud and the potentially "reputable" people who commit them. It's actually rather comforting to know that Chinese systems in academia and government discovered the fraud in that case and made it known and the people/person accountable.

As for the other point of this character wasting time and money? That's never been something I've denied. Whether you choose to believe his efforts represent the entirety of Chinese efforts in DSP work back over a decade ago or not is up to you and if you want us to believe that, then please prove it with numbers. I'm sure that's difficult if not impossible so please at the very least, don't assume we all bandwagon with you on that one.

Interesting to ask now though, does China have actual domestic DSPs now?
Who told you it was Chinese system discovered his fraud?
 

TD739

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Almost definitely is. Same roundabout methods and using very ambiguous tones and statements that don't get to the point but does insinuate. It's very Indian actually. They don't like details and speaking clearly. It's all allusions and planting ideas because they know you can address and explain all of them very easily or embarrass their moronic thinking.
You are on China EUV ready in 2 years bandwagon.
 

ougoah

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Who told you it was Chinese system discovered his fraud?

It was Chinese system that discovered his fraud. It's clearly written even in the articles you linked. Who else would? His fraud was only done in China and only done to China. The US wouldn't have even known about his rebranded DSPs and would not have alerted China to it because it was harming China. He wasn't selling DSPs to the international market. The uni and CCP tested his products and found out they weren't what he claimed. Stopped right there.
 

ougoah

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You are on China EUV ready in 2 years bandwagon.

Nope. I don't know enough about it to be on a bandwagon. Also sure you don't either. I'm just confident China will not have its computing and smartphone industry killed simply because of lacking access to EUV because Americans are still pondering the idea of total ban on fab equipment. Worse comes to worst, China relies on domestic market to keep those industries alive and possibly even introduce trade barriers if worse comes to worst.

Trade barriers is the perfect solution in that bottom of the well position. China would literally have nothing to lose by setting up trade barriers because the small edge in performance is honestly negligible. It'll just piss off domestic consumers and would be hard to pull off in that sense. Keeping those industries not just alive but thriving is easy for CCP. This is all absolute worst case.
 

TD739

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It was Chinese system that discovered his fraud. It's clearly written even in the articles you linked. Who else would? His fraud was only done in China and only done to China. The US wouldn't have even known about his rebranded DSPs and would not have alerted China to it because it was harming China.
Hahaha, nice. Very nice. Cool story Bro.

China academic system was in total bliss for longtime until an anonymous tipster posted on the internet and spread like a wild fire. Thats how how China academic got alarmed but damage already done and whole nation already know!
 

ougoah

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Hahaha, nice. Very nice. Cool story Bro.

China academic system was in total bliss for longtime until an anonymous tipster posted on the internet and spread like a wild fire. Thats how how China academic got alarmed but damage already done and whole nation already know!

Nah my uncle says different. I trust him over your anonymous tipster. Honestly do you have nothing better to do than make fake claims with no backing? If you're going to introduce Indian style "anon sources" please have the decency to accept people making fun of you.
 

ougoah

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oh yea dude posted on Chinese 4chan and changed the world.

I know for a fact it was a time-traveler that tipped off the CCP on this one. The man traveled from 2075 where China finally figured out Chen's swindle against the CCP. China spend nearly 70 years and still couldn't build a working DSP in that alternate timeline (India figured out how to make computers beyond plastic mold injection and basic assembly). Somehow the CCP stole blueprints from the super dupa americans for a timemachine and more miraculously beat the americans in completing one just based off rough 2D blueprints. He came back, tipped off the scam and has obviously set China on a quicker path to semiconductor supremacy.
 

TD739

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Nah my uncle says different. I trust him over your anonymous tipster. Honestly do you have nothing better to do than make fake claims with no backing? If you're going to introduce Indian style "anon sources" please have the decency to accept people making fun of you.
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At the beginning of 2006, an anonymous user posted an article on the Chinese internet forum
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about the forgery of this DSP chip with very detailed references. Later various Chinese media including
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, a
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newspaper, claims that various ministries of the Chinese government have been investigating the Hanxin, and Chen may have duplicated a
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DSP from the West.

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Looks like you are exposed, Bro
I am sure your uncle must be proud of you and your friend visitors as trolls.
Good job!

I am done conversation with you and your troll buddies.
 
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