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Oppo flexes muscles with self-developed NPUs​


Oppo has become the fourth phone brand in China that has developed its own neural processing units (NPUs), while chips developed by Qualcomm and MediaTek have also been adopted in its new models.

Following Huawei, Xiaomi and Vivo, Oppo launched MariSilicon X - an NPU for boosting photography effects - during its Oppo Inno Day in December 2021.

When Oppo launched new flagship series Find X5 last month, its Find X5 Pro model carried the MariSilicon X chip. Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and MediaTek's Dimensity 9000 also appeared in its new phones.

The chips launched by Vivo, Xiaomi and Oppo are focused on images processing, showing that these Chinese suppliers regard photography optimization as a vital way toward product differentiation and upgrades.
 

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Oppo flexes muscles with self-developed NPUs​


Oppo has become the fourth phone brand in China that has developed its own neural processing units (NPUs), while chips developed by Qualcomm and MediaTek have also been adopted in its new models.

Following Huawei, Xiaomi and Vivo, Oppo launched MariSilicon X - an NPU for boosting photography effects - during its Oppo Inno Day in December 2021.

When Oppo launched new flagship series Find X5 last month, its Find X5 Pro model carried the MariSilicon X chip. Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and MediaTek's Dimensity 9000 also appeared in its new phones.

The chips launched by Vivo, Xiaomi and Oppo are focused on images processing, showing that these Chinese suppliers regard photography optimization as a vital way toward product differentiation and upgrades.
@tokenanalyst bro the reason why BBK is much better than Xiaomi is that they understand that they need to invest in technology like Huawei rather than be an assembler, they can't be like Apple even though Apple itself does develop some of its tech inhouse.
 

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US think tank proposes to "poach" more than 3,500 workers from TSMC and Samsung​


A few days ago, the US think tank CSET estimated the labor demand for chip manufacturing in the United States under the CHIPS Act, and whether labor must be imported from abroad. It is estimated that under the manufacturing incentives of the CHIPS Act, there may be insufficient domestic semiconductor talent in the United States, and at least more than 3,500 experienced and highly skilled foreign workers need to be imported from abroad. Therefore, the think tank recommends that the United States formulate policies to introduce talents from Taiwan and South Korea.

CSET estimates that new U.S. chip manufacturing plants may need to employ about 27,000 workers, spurred by CHIPS Act incentives. There are three possible sources of these workers: first, other industries in the United States; second, American academic institutions; third, overseas talent. Among them, other industries in the United States can meet the needs of certain lower-skilled positions in manufacturing plants, such as inspectors, testers, sorters, etc. But finding high-skilled jobs from other U.S. industries can be difficult and could adversely affect other sensitive industries. And American academic institutions can meet the demand for high-skilled talents in manufacturing plants to a certain extent, but they must undergo a lot of on-the-job training. And about 67% of masters and 48% of semiconductor-related students in the United States are foreign students. As such, for high-skilled occupations, CSET expects a high demand for overseas talent, totaling more than 3,500. "Ideally, many of the 3,500-plus foreign workers will be current employees of leading logic chip makers such as TSMC and Samsung," the think tank said.

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I want to see how many U.S. Poachers the DPP government in Taiwan is going to arrest or if they are gonna raid U.S companies offices.
Lets see how much they care about that Island semiconductor industry.
 

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US think tank proposes to "poach" more than 3,500 workers from TSMC and Samsung​


A few days ago, the US think tank CSET estimated the labor demand for chip manufacturing in the United States under the CHIPS Act, and whether labor must be imported from abroad. It is estimated that under the manufacturing incentives of the CHIPS Act, there may be insufficient domestic semiconductor talent in the United States, and at least more than 3,500 experienced and highly skilled foreign workers need to be imported from abroad. Therefore, the think tank recommends that the United States formulate policies to introduce talents from Taiwan and South Korea.

CSET estimates that new U.S. chip manufacturing plants may need to employ about 27,000 workers, spurred by CHIPS Act incentives. There are three possible sources of these workers: first, other industries in the United States; second, American academic institutions; third, overseas talent. Among them, other industries in the United States can meet the needs of certain lower-skilled positions in manufacturing plants, such as inspectors, testers, sorters, etc. But finding high-skilled jobs from other U.S. industries can be difficult and could adversely affect other sensitive industries. And American academic institutions can meet the demand for high-skilled talents in manufacturing plants to a certain extent, but they must undergo a lot of on-the-job training. And about 67% of masters and 48% of semiconductor-related students in the United States are foreign students. As such, for high-skilled occupations, CSET expects a high demand for overseas talent, totaling more than 3,500. "Ideally, many of the 3,500-plus foreign workers will be current employees of leading logic chip makers such as TSMC and Samsung," the think tank said.

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I want to see how many U.S. Poachers the DPP government in Taiwan is going to arrest or if they are gonna raid U.S companies offices.
Lets see how much they care about that Island semiconductor industry.
I think I once saw an informal poll in TSMC about posting preferences. Nanjing still triumph over Arizona.
 

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US think tank proposes to "poach" more than 3,500 workers from TSMC and Samsung​


A few days ago, the US think tank CSET estimated the labor demand for chip manufacturing in the United States under the CHIPS Act, and whether labor must be imported from abroad. It is estimated that under the manufacturing incentives of the CHIPS Act, there may be insufficient domestic semiconductor talent in the United States, and at least more than 3,500 experienced and highly skilled foreign workers need to be imported from abroad. Therefore, the think tank recommends that the United States formulate policies to introduce talents from Taiwan and South Korea.

CSET estimates that new U.S. chip manufacturing plants may need to employ about 27,000 workers, spurred by CHIPS Act incentives. There are three possible sources of these workers: first, other industries in the United States; second, American academic institutions; third, overseas talent. Among them, other industries in the United States can meet the needs of certain lower-skilled positions in manufacturing plants, such as inspectors, testers, sorters, etc. But finding high-skilled jobs from other U.S. industries can be difficult and could adversely affect other sensitive industries. And American academic institutions can meet the demand for high-skilled talents in manufacturing plants to a certain extent, but they must undergo a lot of on-the-job training. And about 67% of masters and 48% of semiconductor-related students in the United States are foreign students. As such, for high-skilled occupations, CSET expects a high demand for overseas talent, totaling more than 3,500. "Ideally, many of the 3,500-plus foreign workers will be current employees of leading logic chip makers such as TSMC and Samsung," the think tank said.

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I want to see how many U.S. Poachers the DPP government in Taiwan is going to arrest or if they are gonna raid U.S companies offices.
Lets see how much they care about that Island semiconductor industry.

This seems reasonable to me, nothing to be scandalized by. In China there is the same problem:

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And China semiconductor industry has already attracted a lot of talent from Taiwan, Korea, Japan:

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For instance SMIC's father of all the sub 28nm advanced nodes including the latest N+1, N+2 is a former TSMC R&D executive (that studied at the University of California, Berkeley).

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We all have our idea of US and US politics, but I think we have to be honest and recognize that all the semiconductor industry started and developed out of US. Many of the Taiwanese technical top executives (including the founder) have studied and developed their career in US, and the same is true for a lot of Mainland Chinese ones. All the semiconductor world community benefited a lot and has a big debt toward US companies and universities....maybe in 10-20 years it will be different...
 

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This seems reasonable to me, nothing to be scandalized by. In China there is the same problem:

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And China semiconductor industry has already attracted a lot of talent from Taiwan, Korea, Japan:

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For instance SMIC's father of all the sub 28nm advanced nodes including the latest N+1, N+2 is a former TSMC R&D executive (that studied at the University of California, Berkeley).

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We all have our idea of US and US politics, but I think we have to be honest and recognize that all the semiconductor industry started and developed out of US. Many of the Taiwanese technical top executives (including the founder) have studied and developed their career in US, and the same is true for a lot of Mainland Chinese ones. All the semiconductor world community benefited a lot and has a big debt toward US companies and universities....maybe in 10-20 years it will be different...

I don't think anyone is saying that poaching talents is wrong or anything like that. What the OP is complaining about is that Taiwan raids Mainland firms that poach local talents but probably doesn't have the gonads to do the same to U.S. firms.
 

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This seems reasonable to me, nothing to be scandalized by. In China there is the same problem:

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And China semiconductor industry has already attracted a lot of talent from Taiwan, Korea, Japan:

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For instance SMIC's father of all the sub 28nm advanced nodes including the latest N+1, N+2 is a former TSMC R&D executive (that studied at the University of California, Berkeley).

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We all have our idea of US and US politics, but I think we have to be honest and recognize that all the semiconductor industry started and developed out of US. Many of the Taiwanese technical top executives (including the founder) have studied and developed their career in US, and the same is true for a lot of Mainland Chinese ones. All the semiconductor world community benefited a lot and has a big debt toward US companies and universities....maybe in 10-20 years it will be different...
I understand that and the U.S can do whatever they want but if the DPP is tough only on China but soft in everyone else ripping apart Taiwan semiconductor industry is going to reflect bad on them.
 

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I understand that and the U.S can do whatever they want but if the DPP is tough only on China but soft in everyone else ripping apart Taiwan semiconductor industry is going to reflect bad on them.
This is ultimately for the best. Once the US plunders TSMC, no real reason remains for it to protect Taiwan from a Chinese invasion. There are the usual reasons of prestige and ego and all the rest of it, but when the time comes nobody is going to stand and die for prestige.
 
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