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tokenanalyst

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As China also has to produce all the equipment for DUV and EUV, would it be correct to say SMEE is 12-15 years behind ASML?
I don't understand the logic of the question.
China doesn't produce *equipment*, Chinese companies like (the most hated company in this forum) U-Precision produce parts for SMEE.
U-Precision wafer working stages could be a just 4 year behind Nikon or ASML ones or Cheer immersion systems could be even better than those of ASML or RSLaser ligth sources could be 8 years or SMEE computational lithography software, an critical area in lithography were China is investing a lot could be up to par to ASML. Who knows
 

gelgoog

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Yes that is correct. You have to look at the whole picture. This is difficult to do without knowing the specs of the products or the technology. We often look at it from one performance metric or two like wavelength or WPH but these are not the only performance parameters.
 

Wetpud

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I don't understand the logic of the question.
China doesn't produce *equipment*, Chinese companies like (the most hated company in this forum) U-Precision produce parts for SMEE.
U-Precision wafer working stages could be a just 4 year behind Nikon or ASML ones or Cheer immersion systems could be even better than those of ASML or RSLaser ligth sources could be 8 years or SMEE computational lithography software, an critical area in lithography were China is investing a lot could be up to par to ASML. Who knows
Why that company be the most hated company in this forum? Whose family or feelings they hurt?
 

tokenanalyst

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I thought SMEE already started shipping 24nm lithography?
28 and yes two shipped to SMIC (2020) and YTMC (2021) for testing, improvement and verification.
Why that company be the most hated company in this forum? Whose family or feelings they hurt?
Somebody here doesn't like U-Precision and doesn't want to see more post from that company. IDK why.
 

Wetpud

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I don't understand the logic of the question.
China doesn't produce *equipment*, Chinese companies like (the most hated company in this forum) U-Precision produce parts for SMEE.
U-Precision wafer working stages could be a just 4 year behind Nikon or ASML ones or Cheer immersion systems could be even better than those of ASML or RSLaser ligth sources could be 8 years or SMEE computational lithography software, an critical area in lithography were China is investing a lot could be up to par to ASML. Who knows
What is Cheer immersion system?
 

56860

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Yes that is correct. You have to look at the whole picture. This is difficult to do without knowing the specs of the products or the technology. We often look at it from one performance metric or two like wavelength or WPH but these are not the only performance parameters.
Is China's share in the SME equipment market (3%) not a reason for concern?
 

Wetpud

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Let's talk about "concern" in the next decade. After all China's wake up moment just happened recently.
 
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