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Tyler

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Bro Yes it will prosper BUT it is still a mere assembler and that for me its value as a viable company is questionable and may not last within the decade. Its current model anybody can duplicated it and its profit margin is thin. They need to diversify as the mobile phone business is starting to reach a saturation point.

@Tyler bro my opinion its between Tesla, BYD, Geely and the latecomer Huawei. (due to having a 5G advantage in application). Apple is vaporware even if they're able to deliver a product in 2024, it need to beat the likes of NIO and Xpeng first as Apple Car will have the same price range.
It does not matter if xiaomi is just an assembler. Not every company needs to huawei or byd.

The main EV battle will be among huawei, xiaomi, evergrande, nio, xpeng and the Europeans. Maybe tesla can compete a bit, if they behave properly.
 

Tyler

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@Xsizor bro you're correct and apologized for my arrogance, BUT my statement stand, IF they still adopt its current model of sourcing (instead of investing) and competing against Tesla on its niche market, then it will not be same as before. Tesla is synonymous to EV as Apple is to Smartphone. Success is not guarantee you have to earn it.
They will just buy rivian or lucid?
 

horse

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@horse Happy New Year brother and wish a prosperous and healthy 2022 for your family. Bro once I read the news about the " Return of the King" Its game over ,Huawei basically giving the US the middle finger and ask them squarely in their face "DO I feel lucky! Well Punk, Do I" ala Harry Callahan "Dirty Harry style"...lol. Its a self confidence bordering on arrogance, and who can blame them for being treated unfairly. All those hard work and the humiliation is a great motivator.

Yeah, Happy New Year brother to you and your family! Guess that goes for everyone.

The reporting on Huawei is going to be very interesting in the Western media in the coming year. This is the most important fight there is between the United States and China.

All the US has to show for it is lower phone sales for one Chinese company. That is it.

It is all spin. Look at what happened when the United Arab Emirates canceled their F-35 deal with the Americans because the UAE refused to remove Huawei 5G from their networks.

Wasn't that deal worth over $23 billion and more with the spare parts to the American military industrial complex? Yeah, and how much did Hauwei lose in terms of revenue?

That comparison, will not be reported.

:oops: :D
 
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RSIC scientific instrument (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. was a joint venture company founded in 2005 , working process of testing equipment in development, production and sales of independent intellectual property rights of integrated circuit manufacturing technology and equipment in the industry.

Company's products fills important blank national important industry chain, since the inclusion of the city in 2005 in Shanghai city science and technology major industrial project of science and technology, with the strong support and attention from government and industry,

We will continue to absorb and train personnel, the establishment and development of the industry leading the capability of independent innovation of enterprises and the team, to achieve and maintain a leading position in the international and domestic relevant industry and market.
 

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New generation optical film thickness measuring equipment (tfx4000i) independently developed by Ruili

On June 20, 2021, the third generation optical film thickness measurement equipment tfx4000i developed by Ruili scientific instruments (Shanghai) Co., Ltd. was officially delivered to the customer. This equipment is an excellent measurement equipment used in the front production line of large-scale integrated circuit. It inherits all the superior performance of the second generation product tfx3000p of the company, and is more abundant and perfect in function, It is more widely used.
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Compared with tfx3000p, which has already been mass-produced, tfx4000i continues to use the same main framework and software architecture as tfx3000p, maintaining the excellent measurement performance and reliability of the second generation products to the greatest extent. Meanwhile, tfx4000i adds reflection measurement module and deep UV measurement module, which has a wider spectral range and covers a wider range of process applications, It can meet the requirements of more advanced technology.
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sndef888

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Yeah, Happy New Year brother to you and your family! Guess that goes for everyone.

The reporting on Huawei is going to be very interesting in the Western media in the coming year. This is the most important fight there is between the United States and China.

All the US has to show for it is lower phone sales for one Chinese company. That is it.

It is all spin. Look at what happened when the United Arab Emirates canceled their F-35 deal with the Americans because the UAE refused to remove Huawei 5G from their networks.

Wasn't that deal worth over $23 billion and more with the spare parts to the American military industrial complex? Yeah, and how much did Hauwei lose in terms of revenue?

That comparison, will not be reported.

:oops: :D
The US military industrial complex must be pissed that their own propaganda resulted in the loss of a 23 billion deal

Look how the US is getting on its knees begging the UAE to continue the deal lol
 

horse

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Maybe. Just Maybe.
But there's always the possibility that it may be not. Anyways.

This is a done deal. Although I am no engineer, this is just confirmation that EUV will be in China soon.

What is Extreme Ultraviolet light?
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Extreme ultraviolet lithography (also known as EUV or EUVL) is an optical lithography technology using a range of extreme ultraviolet (EUV) wavelengths, roughly spanning a 2% FWHM bandwidth about 13.5 nm, to produce a pattern by exposing reflective photomask to UV light which gets reflected onto a substrate

What is Deep Ultraviolet light?

Definition. Deep Ultraviolet (DUV) Photolithography is the process of defining a pattern in a thin photosensitive polymer layer (photoresist) using controlled 254–193-nm light such that the resulting polymer pattern can be transferred into or onto the underlying substrate by etching, deposition, or implantation.

That is the difference.

The wavelength of the light, that light which is beamed out of that laser or whatever.

How do we change the wavelength of a light source?

We pass it through a prism, or lens!

So what they are really saying, some people in the US government, is that the Chinese do not know that light travels in waves (particles too), and the Chinese do not know that a lens can change the wavelength the light.

All the Chinese have to do to complete the EUV, is experiment a little with different lens construction, such as having several lens in a tube, such as a microscope or telescope.

In fact, if there is only one lens in a microscope, the object being viewed is still travelling through two lenses, one is the scope and one in our eyeball.

That is the bottleneck, how to build or machine that lens, or a set of lenses.

If they already have DUV, then EUV is replacing the lens. They landed on Mars. They can do this.

Once they replace the lens and fire it out of the laser, it could look like this.


 
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