broadsword

Brigadier
Neither you nor I know the particulars of the Dongfang gas turbine being reported. Just because some industrial gas turbines can be converted to marine gas turbines that doesn’t mean all industrial gas turbines can be converted. I am not saying China cannot convert industrial gas turbines into a marine gas turbines. I am saying the *specific* turbine we are talking about may not be the type that would make sense for such a conversion. Just like how not every civilian turbofan is appropriate for conversion to military use or vice versa.

Likelihood is strong. Look at the capacity.
 

Temstar

Brigadier
Registered Member
Neither you nor I know the particulars of the Dongfang gas turbine being reported. Just because some industrial gas turbines can be converted to marine gas turbines that doesn’t mean all industrial gas turbines can be converted. I am not saying China cannot convert industrial gas turbines into a marine gas turbines. I am saying the *specific* turbine we are talking about may not be the type that would make sense for such a conversion. Just like how not every civilian turbofan is appropriate for conversion to military use or vice versa.
In this particular case Dongfang specifically said this 50MW system will form the basis for an entire series of gas turbines.
 

latenlazy

Brigadier
In this particular case Dongfang specifically said this 50MW system will form the basis for an entire series of gas turbines.
Did they specify marine? “An entire series” can mean any number of things.

It's how you connect the dots. Capacity is there and so is the technology. Design characteristics? Care to elaborate?
If the gas turbine has more cycles and a less powerful compressor it is likely to be heavier. The greater the weight to power ratio, the less suitable it is for propulsion.
 

broadsword

Brigadier
Did they specify marine? “An entire series” can mean any number of things.

Read in the context of them having been part of a team that had successfully developed a gas turbine for big naval ships.

If the gas turbine has more cycles and a less powerful compressor it is likely to be heavier. The greater the weight to power ratio, the less suitable it is for propulsion.

That is nothing more than your speculation.
 

FangYuan

Junior Member
Registered Member
If the gas turbine has more cycles and a less powerful compressor it is likely to be heavier. The greater the weight to power ratio, the less suitable it is for propulsion.

But it's usable, that's enough. Although ineffective when compared to similar engines of the US and EU.
 

latenlazy

Brigadier
But it's usable, that's enough. Although ineffective when compared to similar engines of the US and EU.
China has plenty of other gas turbine projects. If this one isn’t suitable for navalization then there’s no point wasting resources to force something not suitable for the task.
 

FangYuan

Junior Member
Registered Member
China has plenty of other gas turbine projects. If this one isn’t suitable for navalization then there’s no point wasting resources to force something not suitable for the task.


I completely agree.

My opinion is "if we don't have a tractor, we'll use a horse".
 
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