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A patent for a certain propulsion system arrangement (?) for unmanned ships. Could someone explain the summary to me, as I'm having trouble understanding the technical Chinese.

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A patent for a certain propulsion system arrangement (?) for unmanned ships. Could someone explain the summary to me, as I'm having trouble understanding the technical Chinese.

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It is a gear box and electric motor setup for unmanned boat. The aimed problem to solve is large low-speed permanent magnet motor which is too expensive and too large limitting the useful payload of boat. So it seems (summary does not say) that the solution is a high speed small (probably asynchronous induction motor) motor together with gear reduction. To make it compact, the motor shaft and propeller shaft are arranged side by side.
 
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by78

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It is a gear box and electric motor setup for unmanned boat. The aimed problem to solve is large low-speed permanent magnet motor which is too expensive and too large limitting the useful payload of boat. So it seems (summary does not say) that the solution is a high speed small (probably asynchronous induction motor) motor together with gear reduction. To make it compact, the motor shaft and propeller shaft are arranged side by side.

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A table from Ma Weiming's latest paper on marine propulsion. It roughly compares China's medium-voltage DC IPS system with a certain medium-voltage AC foreign system. The Chinese system has higher power densities (10% volumetric and 21% gravimetric), higher operational stability, and rated efficiency (+2%).

The full paper is posted below, which also talks about applying IPS tech to hybrid/electric aircraft and urban transit systems.

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this is good and the tech here seems like what they already have for PHEVs. Note the 75C as the high rate of discharge of energy. That's pretty good.

And civilian ships already use 180 wh/kg LFP battery here, which also seems expected. I don't know why their testing only used 80 wh/kg battery, except maybe they were just using this config for study/research.

I'd be curious when the naval ships will use this. They've done so much work in plugin hybrid for PHEVs, that it seems silly to not be ahead in adoption of this for shipping.
 

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this is good and the tech here seems like what they already have for PHEVs. Note the 75C as the high rate of discharge of energy. That's pretty good.

And civilian ships already use 180 wh/kg LFP battery here, which also seems expected. I don't know why their testing only used 80 wh/kg battery, except maybe they were just using this config for study/research.
High discharge rate is another way of saying high power density. According to the following article high power desity and energy density are contradictory, at least in case of Li based battery.

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中国船舶集团旗下中船动力深耕涵盖燃油、LNG、LPG、甲醇、氨等多种燃料类型的发动机、动力能源系统、环保装备、电站系统等领域,业务遍布全球近 120 个国家和地区,低速机国际市场占有率位居世界第二,中速机在远洋船市场占有率上位居国内厂家第一。

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CSSC has developed engines for LNG, LPG, methanol, ammonia, fuel oil and more.
It is now second globally in low speed marine engine
and top in China for medium speed ocean going market
 

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looks like CSSC is also continuing to get further into more complicated, high speed diesel engines

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And it's also behind the effort in battery electric shipping, diesel hybrid propulsion, power batter ships, oil electric hybrid tugboat. So, it looks like they are involved in electrifying marine propulsion.

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