The fact that there exist dumb propaganda narratives does not mean that everything is a dumb propaganda narrative. Sometimes it is just a simple name for a simple thing. A gun is a gun, a tank is a tank, a ASBM is a ASBM.
Chinese Hypersonic Developments (HGVs/HCMs)
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The fact that there exist dumb propaganda narratives does not mean that everything is a dumb propaganda narrative. Sometimes it is just a simple name for a simple thing. A gun is a gun, a tank is a tank, a ASBM is a ASBM.
AssassinsMace
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Yes the dumb that the US needs to make people believe their spin.
Yes, US spin is dumb. But using the correct name for a missile isn't US spin. It's just a fact.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
I didn't bring up what's "technically" correct. Technically what you're complaining about is correct.
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It's not a claim, it's a fact. They call the missiles ASBMs because they are ASBMs. The idea that there is any sort of connection to any kind of Chinese anything is the part you made up out of nothing. This has nothing to do with China at all, and is frankly just pointless clutter in this thread. I was trying to be polite about it.
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AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
You mean the US didn't try to connect Russia's Zircon's interception as how China's hypersonic missiles will perform...? You can't have it both ways.
What is your point of technicality? You can launch a toy drone from a kayak and visually guide it to smash someone. Does that make you technically operate an aircraft carrier?
once in thousands times perhaps.
Then it's a good thing I'm not trying to have it both ways. You should be specific about what connection you are talking about with Russia, where was this said and who said it?
The way I have is that a generic name is a generic name. Like ASBM.
AssassinsMace
Lieutenant General
It's like when Ang Lee directed the movie The Ice Storm. He got a lot of heat from critics because how can this foreigner make a movie about Americans having affairs making the US look bad? Well the movie was based on a book written by a white person. Like I've been saying many times in this forum... In the US crimes are not determined by the act one commits. Crimes are determined by two factors... who commits the act and who's the victim of that act. I didn't bring up what's technically correct which someone else did that you didn't have a problem with doing because he was defending the US.
Lots of generic names have narrower and specific definitions than the letters literally express, such as marriage which was never written into paper as between a biological male and female humanbeing and yet everybody agrees it is between man and woman until 2010s. ASBM was used by US millitary to refer to Soviet and Chinese effort to use a specialized ballistic missile to hit a moving ship. If the US millitary use the broader definition as you do, they would have already had ASBM themselves, but they never make that claim. So if it is not the name, what is US really spining? I think we should respect a specific term even if the letters are not perfectly reflective.
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Another example is EMALS which is a generic name. It has been broadly agreed in this forum to use it specifically to refer to the EM cat of US origin. While referring the CAT of PLAN we use EM cat.
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