Chinese Geopolitics

vesicles said:

Pardon me, but no country can afford not to have a geopolitical theory. It is your short-term and long-term goal, it is your guidance and it is your philosophy. Every person has his/her principles as a person. Likewise, every nation have its own geopolitical theory. Without it, you lose your guidance and lose your identity. without a geopolitical theory or with a wrong one, you suffer socially and economically within your own nation. This is because nowadays, globalization means everything you do domestically is linked to your foreign policy, which is determined by your geopolitical theories.

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I used to think the same way you do. The real world seems so chaotic. It is so tempting to have a grand theory that explains everything. Scientific Socialism, sounds good right? Everything explained from the beginning of human history. Then reality rear its head. You have people like professor Mearsheimer (who seems to be the theorist behind the American Asian Pivot) quoted above, who tells you straight that reality doesn't matter.
The more I read about these grand sounding geopolitical theories, the more it seems to me these geopoliticians are not just in the business of studying and explaining international conflicts. They are in the business of creating international conflicts.

shen said:

I used to think the same way you do. The real world seems so chaotic. It is so tempting to have a grand theory that explains everything. Scientific Socialism, sounds good right? Everything explained from the beginning of human history. Then reality rear its head. You have people like professor Mearsheimer (who seems to be the theorist behind the American Asian Pivot) quoted above, who tells you straight that reality doesn't matter.
The more I read about these grand sounding geopolitical theories, the more it seems to me these geopoliticians are not just in the business of studying and explaining international conflicts. They are in the business of creating international conflicts.

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That's what happens when you choose a wrong vision. Same thing can be said of someone choosing a wrong profession or wrong view of the world. That's how we have villains like Hitler who simply viewed the world in a completely wrong way, which led himself and his country down to a disastrous path. However, a right vision for a person or a nation will guide you to wealth and prosperity and success. What happens when you don't have a plan or a vision? You lose your focus and that's how you end up a homeless. Those models that lead to conflict simply mean that they don't fit the countries or simply wrong.

I agree that there are tons of different views and different theories. Many of them would be wrong or simply don't fit The nation. Does that mean countries shouldn't have one? Absolutely no! It means it is even more important for them to find the right path and vision. It is essential for one's success.

I learnt from some wise political scientists that most politicians the world over speak with 3 tongues (Not endowed by the Holy Spirit though!). Tongue 1 - what they really believe in. Tongue 2 - for their Party, their mentors, constituents. Tongue 3 - the others who they can BS to. Shakespeare's play "As you like it" has an interesting quotation "All the World's a Stage and all men and women merely players" .... meaning they can play various roles as deemed fit according to situations and occasions.

solarz said:

It's all part of the Great Game.

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vesicles said:

That's what happens when you choose a wrong vision. Same thing can be said of someone choosing a wrong profession or wrong view of the world. That's how we have villains like Hitler who simply viewed the world in a completely wrong way, which led himself and his country down to a disastrous path. However, a right vision for a person or a nation will guide you to wealth and prosperity and success. What happens when you don't have a plan or a vision? You lose your focus and that's how you end up a homeless. Those models that lead to conflict simply mean that they don't fit the countries or simply wrong.
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Who determine or judge it is 'wrong'? I sincerely believe there's no right or wrong...Hitler could be well damn right. Majority? The Pope? History? CCP? Libertanians? Mao? Obama? All judgement have it's flaws and is not the 'truth'. I like Hitler in the sense that he makes his own truth and run with it. These are how the world usually shape, by hell bent people who think they are right =)

advill said:

I learnt from some wise political scientists that most politicians the world over speak with 3 tongues (Not endowed by the Holy Spirit though!). Tongue 1 - what they really believe in. Tongue 2 - for their Party, their mentors, constituents. Tongue 3 - the others who they can BS to. Shakespeare's play "As you like it" has an interesting quotation "All the World's a Stage and all men and women merely players" .... meaning they can play various roles as deemed fit according to situations and occasions.

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True, that's their job and means of survival. I believe everyone a politician, is whether the person is 'bullshitting' in a smaller scale at home, work or to a wider public.

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port_08 said:

Who determine or judge it is 'wrong'? I sincerely believe there's no right or wrong...Hitler could be well damn right. Majority? The Pope? History? CCP? Libertanians? Mao? Obama? All judgement have it's flaws and is not the 'truth'. I like Hitler in the sense that he makes his own truth and run with it. These are how the world usually shape, by hell bent people who think they are right =)

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There is mostly no right or wrong. Mostly it's just whether it fits your social/economic/cultural badkground.

port_08 said:

Who determine or judge it is 'wrong'? I sincerely believe there's no right or wrong........Majority? The Pope? History? CCP? Libertanians? Mao? Obama? All judgement have it's flaws and is not the 'truth'.

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Well, it's not any single person who decides if it is right or wrong. It is the people who decide. Is your nation getting stronger and wealthier? are your people living a better life? are your people happy? Some simply questions. No need to get so complicated and philosophical on this. The "wrong" visions lead nations and people down a disastrous path and consequentially nation and its people suffer. Then anyone wise enough to see this will know that they have picked the wrong path or a path that simply does not fit the nation and the society. It's time for corrections. Simply as that.

port_08 said:

Hitler could be well damn right....I like Hitler in the sense that he makes his own truth and run with it. These are how the world usually shape, by hell bent people who think they are right =)

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I honestly don't think Hitler was right. No matter when or where you are, genocide is NEVER right!!!

It's God thru' his good teachings know the answer. Ask good Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, Hindus et al. They will agree that goodness will triumph over the identified greedy evil doers (History has proven it time and again). Only those who do not believe in goodness (even if they seemingly subscribe to a religion or are dis-believers) will never know the answer. Perhaps one day they will.

vesicles said:

Well, it's not any single person who decides if it is right or wrong. It is the people who decide. Is your nation getting stronger and wealthier? are your people living a better life? are your people happy? Some simply questions. No need to get so complicated and philosophical on this. The "wrong" visions lead nations and people down a disastrous path and consequentially nation and its people suffer. Then anyone wise enough to see this will know that they have picked the wrong path or a path that simply does not fit the nation and the society. It's time for corrections. Simply as that.



I honestly don't think Hitler was right. No matter when or where you are, genocide is NEVER right!!!

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advill said:

It's God thru' his good teachings know the answer. Ask good Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, Hindus et al. They will agree that goodness will triumph over the identified greedy evil doers (History has proven it time and again). Only those who do not believe in goodness (even if they seemingly subscribe to a religion or are dis-believers) will never know the answer. Perhaps one day they will.

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I'm not sure what is a 'good' Muslim, Christian or Buddhist... religion seems to be the root of many evils in this world. How many massacre\genocide happen in the call of religion. Crusade, religion extremism, even China having problem with their Dalai Lama and Falun Goong. If you look at the Bible, God doesn't hesitate to commit 'genocide' against people, in fact Bible teach these things... how do you explain Noah's ark (Hollywood now is making capitalistic gain from promoting subtle call of genocidalism propaganda) is it not a genocide call to kill everyone except Noah and some 'good' people? It's the same, as every perpetrator rightly or wrongly always believe they are the 'good' side...killing the other 'bad' side. Sunni killing Shias, Muslim blowing Christian, Christian drone attacking Muslims. In Bible many teaching of genocide...entire City of Sodom was genocidically raze to the ground....because there is not 1 good enough human was found there by God disciple. China being an atheist country also been killing in those past history in the name of the heaven...so religion is bad.