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Blackstone

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Replace hollywood and chinawood with foreign, and that is what A Mace is saying.




Sure, I agree with that.

The way I see it, A Mace's original point revolved around the fact that foreign films in China do better than foreign films do in America, and that there is indeed a danger of having a cultural monopoly through too much success of one industry collective (i.e.: hollywood).

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AssassinsMace

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OK Mace, I went back to the original point-counter point and noticed we misunderstood each other. Here's what started it all:



By "China" and "US," you meant people and not governments. I read it the other way and answered accordingly. Thus the misunderstanding.

So, this should clear it up; Chinese consumers are more open to see foreign movies than their American counterparts. America don't impose quotes on foreign films like China does, so the market is more open.

At the risk of opening up a new can of worms... well not really since these are numbers I mentioned before... Hollywood movies still makes up around 50% of the Chinese box office receipts. That's the government allowing it. Like I made it easy for you before, I'll let you take all foreign movie receipts in the US box office and it still doesn't come anywhere near 50%. It doesn't come close to the $1.8 billion dollars that it equates to that Hollywood movies made in the Chinese box office. You argue that the government restricts foreign movies? What about piracy? The anti-piracy side charges the Chinese government could stop piracy anytime they wanted. Doesn't that also mean they let those movies have access to Chinese consumers? The pirated copies are all uncensored from the government and not part of the quota and the government who supposedly can stop piracy at anytime allows them to be accessed by the public. If pirated foreign movies are a big illegal business in China as charged, then Chinese have watched a lot of foreign movies by choice of buying a pirated copy.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Mace in this case has a point the US film industry is a dominant player in global entertainment. I mean dominate. It even makes movies abroad on a regular basis. I never hear of a Bollywood blockbuster made in New York have you? Now that said there are other nations with powerful cinemas, and at times other nations have taken American theatres by storm. Japanese movies and Chinese movies have at times gotten top billings but those tend to be fads.
part of it is culture. Something's just don't translate well. Hong Kong action movies have done well in the US. Japanese Horror movies like Ringu, and camp Monster movies like Godzilla, but long dead in my opinion is the real hay day when American theatres were open to foreign movies. That was not a time Equation saw or Mace saw or even me. Maybe Jeff or Pops will remember it.
The days of the drive in theater, the days of the double feature. When there were a dozen different theatres in a midsized town all showing different movies. The late forties, fifties, sixties and then the early part of the seventies. By the eighties with the rise of cable TV, the nineties with its dominance, digital cable emerging millennium and then the rise of Netflix and on demand the numbers of theaters in the US has declined. Big time.
. With the rise of on demand the video store that also sprouted in the eighties and nineties where direct to video foreign films could make a underground rise has declined to a rarity.
A particular hit to imports of Asian films to the USA was for some of you guys a local Houston Texas based company. ADV fims who went under back in oh 2009. I remember because I was buying Anime series on DVD directly from them until they went under. Along with there Anime lines they had the rights of importation from across Asia when they declared bankruptcy no one really stepped up and took there place. With Blockbuster video, Advanced Video having dominated the Video store industry the demise of the VHS for the DVD and rise of Streaming video services. Killing that The US importation of a foreign made movie is limited. The profitability almost nonexistent. The only places.where it might find a platform is On line services, or Cable. Americans just don't go to the movies as much. They prefer there movies to come to them.
by contrast Foreign films in theaters in China are still more viable. Not everyone there has cable or the internet or even in some cases a television. Yes in the cites but the rural areas. The same goes across the world where the standard of living is on only a handful of VHF/UHF channels the Cinema is likely to be far more prosperous and demanding of verity from abroad.
 

Blackstone

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Officials in Hong Kong will have its hands full controlling the on-going demonstration. Hopefully, things will remain peaceful.

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(Reuters) - Since Britain handed back colonial Hong Kong in 1997, retired primary school teacher and Falun Gong devotee Lau Wai-hing has fully exercised the freedoms China promised this city of 7.2 million.
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While the battle for influence continues, there is no let up on Sogo Corner for Lau Wai-hing and her fellow Falun Gong devotees.

On a recent Saturday, not far from where Lau was standing, members of the Care for the Youth Group Association held a "wanted" poster carrying Lau's photograph with the words "evil cult member" below it.

Lam, the group's vice chairman, raised his portable loudspeaker rigged to a car battery. "Wipe out the evil cult Falun Gong," he shouted, his voice reverberating down the busy street.

Lau, however, would not be deterred.

"People can see we only want to make ourselves heard. Hong Kong should give us that freedom."
 
Officials in Hong Kong will have its hands full controlling the on-going demonstration. Hopefully, things will remain peaceful.

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It should mostly remain peaceful, but other than that, things ain't looking good for our future. Recently the chair for the finance committee forced-passed a budget for North East development of HK-Shenzhen area, and this already comes to us as the beginning of the deterioration of HK's rule of law.
 

AssassinsMace

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Transformers 4 made $93-$97 million in China in the first weekend from the various articles from trades I've been reading but no doubt has broken records. There's a debate how much the movie made in North America (US and Canada). So in China the movie just made 5%-10% less than North America during the same period. Just as those stuck in the old guard mentality in Hollywood aren't satisfied with 50% of the yearly Chinese box office, they're complaining about the "success" of Transformers 4 in China. Why? Because of how much TF4 had to include Chinese elements which lays out the formula of success in the Chinese box office for a Hollywood movie that future movies might have to follow in order to get that kind of success in China. It's called capitalist market principles. Aren't they suppose to cater to the tastes of their target audience in order to get them to buy their product? But not for the Chinese because... It's a communist dictatorship? Oh so they hide behind free market principles and democracy in order to make communist dictatorship-like demands when it comes to their business in China. They can always take their ball and go home if they don't like it. But they're not going to do that because China is a growing box office. Right now it has under a third of North American box office power yet as seen TF4 has reached almost par in box office receipts for a successful movie in general. Before China, Hollywood was always in the position of power even with other countries. But they never came across a country that had larger box office potential than their own...

I haven't seen TF4 yet but I remember reading according to the trades early on in production that China supposedly "demanded" Hong Kong get destroyed but no cities or landmarks in Mainland China. Since the movie has been out, I heard that the Great Wall and Beijing are where battles happen too. Can anyone who has seen the movie confirm this?

Here's a paranoid article trying to decipher what Chinese elements in TF4 are brainwashing viewers into believing.

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TerraN_EmpirE

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Hong Kong was heavily damaged, As was Chicago, Parts of Texas. But no No Major recognizable Mainland Cities or land Marks or Cities of the Peoples Republic of China we so much as Scratched. There is a Rural fight That bashes up a River bead and a rock face, Mention of bombing a empty spot in the gobi, And a singular passing Scene in Beijing but no fights.
 

Blackstone

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Chinese authorities have banned Ramadan fasting in Xinjing Province. Messing with religion is a dangerous act, and nothing good will come of it. We'll likely see more Islamist violence in NW and Central China soon.

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Students and civil servants in China's Muslim northwest, where Beijing is enforcing a security crackdown following deadly unrest, have been ordered to avoid taking part in traditional fasting during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan...
 
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