Chinese General news resource thread

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[Blackstone]

The US may be all "freedom of religion", but people in China do not operate under such illusions. Where Americans may think that religious practices are a "right", in China religious practices only exist if they are tolerated by the state.

Not quite. There are plenty of brave souls willing to ignore Red Emperor edicts and worship in non-Communist sanctioned churches.

Frankly, when a religion tells its believers that it's okay to drive a car bomb into a market full of people, banning their practice of fasting is going to be the least of my concerns.

Not an unreasonable sentiment. But, will the proposed action do more harm than good?

 

[Blackstone]

I can't believe the membership here will believe stories like this so easily. Since there is no link to the official sites mentioned that don't allow officials and students to fast. Has anyone here found any official sources for this story that some muslims in China are not allow to fast ? If there is no link to the original source you should treat the story with suspicion.

1) How about the same story from a Red propaganda organ, the South China Morning Post?
2) It isn't just government officials, the ban extends to students and teachers too.

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Beijing has banned civil servants, students and teachers in the mainly Muslim Xinjiang region from taking part in Ramadan fasting, government websites said.

This has prompted condemnation from an exile group today.

The ruling Communist party is officially atheist, and for years has restricted fasting in Xinjiang, home to the mostly Muslim Uygur minority.

Xinjiang sees regular and often deadly clashes between Uygurs and state security forces, and Beijing has blamed recent deadly attacks elsewhere in the country on militants seeking independence for the resource-rich region.

Rights groups blame tensions on religious and cultural restrictions placed on Uygurs and other Muslim minorities in the vast area, which abuts Central Asia.

Several government departments posted notices on their websites in recent days banning fasting during Ramadan, which began this weekend. During the holy month, the faithful fast from dawn to dusk and strive to be more pious.

The commercial affairs bureau of Turfan city said on its website on Monday that "civil servants and students cannot take part in fasting and other religious activities".

The state-run Bozhou Radio and TV University said on its website that it would "enforce the ban on party members, teachers, and young people from taking part in Ramadan activities".

"We remind everyone that they are not permitted to observe a Ramadan fast," it added.


A weather bureau in Qaraqash county in western Xinjiang said on its website that "in accordance with instructions from higher authorities", it "calls on all current and retired staff not to fast during Ramadan".

A state office which manages the Tarim River basin posted pictures of its staff wearing traditional Uyghur "doppa" caps tucking into a group meal on Saturday.

"Although the meal coincided with the Muslim festival of Ramadan, the cadres who took part expressed a positive attitude and will lead the non-fasting," it said.

Beijing has in the past said that restrictions on fasting are meant to ensure the health of government employees.

Dilxadi Rexiti, a spokesman for the exiled World Uygur Congress, cited local sources as saying that authorities encouraged Uygurs to eat free meals on Monday, and inspected homes to check if the fast was being observed.

"China taking these kind of coercive measures, restricting the faith of Uygurs, will create more conflict," he said.

"We call on China to ensure religious freedom for Uygurs and stop political repression of Ramadan."

 

[Blackstone]

China has not banned Fasting in Xinjiang, it has banned public officials from fasting. This is very different.

The public have a right to expect public administration and services to be carried out properly and effectively at all times. Fasting can reduce the ability of a public official to correctly carry out his duties and the Chinese Government has concluded (correctly in my opinion) that the discharge of public responsibilities by its officials, takes precedence over personnel religious observances.

Except students aren't public officials.

 

[Blackstone]

One would like to think that the BBC can generally be trusted to fact check their stories. Sure they have their bias, but it's a bit of a big deal if they reported lies.

It looks like BBC got the story pretty much right.

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[AssassinsMace]

Sorry to tell you some things going on in Europe, especially countries like Great Britain, France, and Germany, are worse than what China is doing. There's a high tide of anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant attitudes going on. So what the BBC is doing is unethical. It's like when the BBC said if Pakistan and India went to nuclear war, it would be all China's fault because of history. Yeah like the British have no responsibility with that little spat? Now they're trying to paint China more anti-Muslim than the West. It's called hypocrisy. There was a story last year that Chinese tourists were not choosing to travel to Great Britain because of the anti-foreign atmosphere going on. I read an article trying to convince Chinese tourists that the anti-foreign attitudes were aimed at Africans, Turks, and Muslims not Chinese. Yeah, that makes it a whole lot better. If I were as low as them, I would bring up how they killed Princess Diana because she had relations with a Muslim which is supposedly an insult to the crown as an example of how anti-Islamic they are. That came from the British media so it must be true. They wouldn't lie...

 

[Doombreed]

Sorry to tell you some things going on in Europe, especially countries like Great Britain, France, and Germany, are worse than what China is doing. There's a high tide of anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant attitudes going on. So what the BBC is doing is unethical. It's like when the BBC said if Pakistan and India went to nuclear war, it would be all China's fault because of history. Yeah like the British have no responsibility with that little spat? Now they're trying to paint China more anti-Muslim than the West. It's called hypocrisy. There was a story last year that Chinese tourists were not choosing to travel to Great Britain because of the anti-foreign atmosphere going on. I read an article trying to convince Chinese tourists that the anti-foreign attitudes were aimed at Africans, Turks, and Muslims not Chinese. Yeah, that makes it a whole lot better. If I were as low as them, I would bring up how they killed Princess Diana because she had relations with a Muslim which is supposedly an insult to the crown as an example of how anti-Islamic they are. That came from the British media so it must be true. They wouldn't lie...

You're not a mayor from Osaka are you?

Allied soldiers liberating France during the second world war raped French women after pushing back the Germans, an outspoken Japanese politician has claimed, as Tokyo comes under pressure over its wartime system of sex slavery.
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Conservatives, including Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, believe Japan is unfairly singled out for wrongs that were more widespread than their accusers admit.

I'm just gonna let that sink in for a minute.

If you are quoting something from somewhere, you better provide a link for the source.
- TUP

 

[AssassinsMace]

You're not a mayor from Osaka are you?

Thanks for proving my point. Notice how you avoided accusing that of the BBC since they're the ones trying to divert attention from their own hypocrisy?

 

[Doombreed]

Thanks for proving my point. Notice how you avoided accusing that of the BBC since they're the ones trying to divert attention from their own hypocrisy?

This is very interesting. I wonder if the Osaka mayor thinks the same way. Nationalist have more in common than they would like to admit.

Conservatives, including AssassinsMace, believe China is unfairly singled out for wrongs that were more widespread than their accusers admit.

Very interstinig indeed.

 

[AssassinsMace]

This is very interesting. I wonder if the Osaka mayor thinks the same way. Nationalist have more in common than they would like to admit.



Very interstinig indeed.

Notice you didn't compare the BBC to the NHK for doing the exact same thing either?