Chinese General news resource thread

[airsuperiority]

Chinese authorities have banned Ramadan fasting in Xinjing Province. Messing with religion is a dangerous act, and nothing good will come of it. We'll likely see more Islamist violence in NW and Central China soon.

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That's messed up. Stuff like this causes more tensions, and actually gives more fuel for people to criticize China for lack of religious freedom

 

[solarz]

That's messed up. Stuff like this causes more tensions, and actually gives more fuel for people to criticize China for lack of religious freedom

The US may be all "freedom of religion", but people in China do not operate under such illusions. Where Americans may think that religious practices are a "right", in China religious practices only exist if they are tolerated by the state.

Frankly, when a religion tells its believers that it's okay to drive a car bomb into a market full of people, banning their practice of fasting is going to be the least of my concerns.

 

[airsuperiority]

The US may be all "freedom of religion", but people in China do not operate under such illusions. Where Americans may think that religious practices are a "right", in China religious practices only exist if they are tolerated by the state.

Frankly, when a religion tells its believers that it's okay to drive a car bomb into a market full of people, banning their practice of fasting is going to be the least of my concerns.

I'm sorry but you've got it really wrong my friend. Religion don't tell people to car bomb people; extremists and their cherry picking ways with hatred attitudes do. Punishing the innocent for the mistakes of a few is unjust.

 

[SampanViking]

China has not banned Fasting in Xinjiang, it has banned public officials from fasting. This is very different.

The public have a right to expect public administration and services to be carried out properly and effectively at all times. Fasting can reduce the ability of a public official to correctly carry out his duties and the Chinese Government has concluded (correctly in my opinion) that the discharge of public responsibilities by its officials, takes precedence over personnel religious observances.

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[Doombreed]

China has not banned Fasting in Xinjiang, it has banned public officials from fasting. This is very different.

The public have a right to expect public administration and services to be carried out properly and effectively at all times. Fasting can reduce the ability of a public official to correctly carry out his duties and the Chinese Government has concluded (correctly in my opinion) that the discharge of public responsibilities by its officials, takes precedence over personnel religious observances.

Yeah sure. How logical. I'm sure that's all the CCP were thinking when they announced the ban.

But could it be, that public admin jobs were sweet gigs? Could it be that if you are an Uyghur and you got a public office job, the CCP will make sure you know who the boss is?

Think back to the Manchu days. Why the hell would a Han chinese wear a queue? Oh...I know, is it because wearing one is a sign of submission and it's easy to pick out the anti-establishment types if they didn't wear one?

I would hazard to guess that this ban serves a similar purpose. If you can forgo one of the most important tenet of your religion, then you're one of the "good" muslims that can be trusted with public office.

 

[Franklin]

Chinese authorities have banned Ramadan fasting in Xinjing Province. Messing with religion is a dangerous act, and nothing good will come of it. We'll likely see more Islamist violence in NW and Central China soon.

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I can't believe the membership here will believe stories like this so easily. Since there is no link to the official sites mentioned that don't allow officials and students to fast. Has anyone here found any official sources for this story that some muslims in China are not allow to fast ? If there is no link to the original source you should treat the story with suspicion.

 

[Doombreed]

Frankly, when a religion tells its believers that it's okay to drive a car bomb into a market full of people, banning their practice of fasting is going to be the least of my concerns.

So....collective punishment it is then?

 

[Doombreed]

I can't believe the membership here will believe stories like this so easily. Since there is no link to the official sites mentioned that don't allow officials and students to fast. Has anyone here found any official sources for this story that some muslims in China are not allow to fast ? If there is no link to the original source you should treat the story with suspicion.

One would like to think that the BBC can generally be trusted to fact check their stories. Sure they have their bias, but it's a bit of a big deal if they reported lies.

 

[Franklin]

One would like to think that the BBC can generally be trusted to fact check their stories. Sure they have their bias, but it's a bit of a big deal if they reported lies.

Did you forget the stories of WMD in Iraq and rape in Libya that the BBC and other media reported as the truth but later turns out to be lies ? If there is a official policy then there should be announcements and papers. Without seeing those I highly doubt the accuracy of this story. And if there are papers and official announcements that bans Muslims in China from fasting during Ramadan do you think the embassies of Muslim and Western nations will stay quiet about this ?

 

[Blitzo]

That's messed up. Stuff like this causes more tensions, and actually gives more fuel for people to criticize China for lack of religious freedom

It is only public officials who are told to not fast (probably so they can properly discharge their duties, as Sampan said), and students, not all Muslims.

Such a move would make no sense. My BS senses were tingling the moment I read the title of that article.

That said, I still think it is a rather pointless policy. While I personally do not go out of my way to avoid offending religion, I don't see any tangible benefit in this case.