Chinese General news resource thread

[Blackstone]

Post #55

Chinese consumers seem to love Hollywood movies, but CCP restricts foreign movies to just a few dozen a year, so it's not true China is more open to foreign films than US. Not even close.

Did you realize you misread my post which is why you're not quoting me where I said what you think?

To the contrary, you misread my post by taking it out of context. The meaning of the entire sentence is CCP has quotas on foreign films (the US doesn't), therefore US movie market is much more accessible by foreign film companies than China's market.

 

[AssassinsMace]

To the contrary, you misread my post by taking it out of context. The meaning of the entire sentence is CCP has quotas on foreign films (the US doesn't), therefore US movie market is much more accessible by foreign film companies than China's market.

That's your spin again. Remember how you told me not to mix the government with individual preferences. What are you doing there? Also note the contradiction there too where you said Chinese love Hollywood movies. How can that be if you're arguing Chinese are not more open to foreign movies?

Still waiting for you to quote me to support your charge before...

 

[Blitzo]

To the contrary, you misread my post by taking it out of context. The meaning of the entire sentence is CCP has quotas on foreign films (the US doesn't), therefore US movie market is much more accessible by foreign film companies than China's market.

I think the difference here is the openness of domestic Chinese and American audiences to foreign films (that is to say, the proportion of the market which foreign films manage to capture), versus the sheer quantity of foreign films which China or the US are shown in both countries.

Putting it another way, does "openness" refer to openness in the taste of the domestic audience to foreign films (or the success of foreign films), or the ease to which foreign films may be shown in the country.

 

[Blackstone]

That's your spin again. Remember how you told me not to mix the government with individual preferences. What are you doing there? Also note the contradiction there too where you said Chinese love Hollywood movies. How can that be if you're arguing Chinese are not more open to foreign movies?

Still waiting for you to quote me to support your charge before...

My original sentence said; the American market is more open to foreign films than China's market, because the Chinese impose quotas on foreign films. It's indisputable.

 

[Blackstone]

I think the difference here is the openness of domestic Chinese and American audiences to foreign films (that is to say, the proportion of the market which foreign films manage to capture), versus the sheer quantity of foreign films which China or the US are shown in both countries.

Putting it another way, does "openness" refer to openness in the taste of the domestic audience to foreign films (or the success of foreign films), or the ease to which foreign films may be shown in the country.

It's pretty clear Chinese consumers like Hollywood films more than American consumers like Chinawood films. But, it's also indisputable China film market is less open to foreign films due to government quotas. Both are true.

 

[Blitzo]

It's pretty clear Chinese consumers like Hollywood films more than American consumers like Chinawood films.

Replace hollywood and chinawood with foreign, and that is what A Mace is saying.

But, it's also indisputable China film market is less open to foreign films due to government quotas. Both are true.

Sure, I agree with that.

The way I see it, A Mace's original point revolved around the fact that foreign films in China do better than foreign films do in America, and that there is indeed a danger of having a cultural monopoly through too much success of one industry collective (i.e.: hollywood).

 

[Equation]

My original sentence said; the American market is more open to foreign films than China's market, because the Chinese impose quotas on foreign films. It's indisputable.

Anywhere at anytime? You mean I can watch any current foreign films at any US theater where I don't have to wait for it to go on DVD to rent to see it?

 

[AssassinsMace]

My original sentence said; the American market is more open to foreign films than China's market, because the Chinese impose quotas on foreign films. It's indisputable.

That was not your original sentence. Look at your first sentence which I just quoted in your first reply to me. You separate by mentioning "Chinese consumers" and the government. It is disputable because again you haven't been able to back up anything you've argued. It's all digression and spin only. What foreign movies that you seem not be able to name that shows Americans are more acceptable again? We go back to the simple task from the beginning. And you avoid it like the plague.

Still waiting for you to quote me to support your charge before... It's simple. This discussion only goes back one page. I was easily able to quote where you argued that Americans were more open to foreign movies than Chinese.

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

it's called Netflixs...
American Film Distribution is a business. It's Run as a business. the Rights to a foreign film have to be bought to show it in a theater or even make a DVD release. It's part of Copyright law. 90% of foreign made movies are never going to see a Theater, maybe 70% will never make it to DVD. But then again maybe 60% of American made Film and TV bombs before DVD and Theater here in the US.

 

[Blackstone]

Funny, you're the one that argued so strongly that Americans are more open to foreign movies than Chinese. I just asked for examples and instead you just give a lot of digression. Like what does a free country have to do with your argument that Americans are more open to foreign movies?

What's bothering you since you seem to be the one deflecting.

OK Mace, I went back to the original point-counter point and noticed we misunderstood each other. Here's what started it all:

Quote Originally Posted by AssassinsMace View Post
The irony is China is more open to foreign movies than in the US. No other foreign film industry can say they have an equal share in box office performance in the US as compared to Hollywood movies in their country.

Blackstone's reply-
Chinese consumers seem to love Hollywood movies, but CCP restricts foreign movies to just a few dozen a year, so it's not true China is more open to foreign films than US. Not even close.

By "China" and "US," you meant people and not governments. I read it the other way and answered accordingly. Thus the misunderstanding.

So, this should clear it up; Chinese consumers are more open to see foreign movies than their American counterparts. America don't impose quotes on foreign films like China does, so the market is more open.