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The Chinese are learning how to play the game. Will Beijing do it is another question.

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I do hope they do that ... will be fun to watch

It looks like overseas Chinese and Chinese everywhere are no longer subjugated to the US soft power bullying and tactics.

 

[jobjed]

I do hope they do that ... will be fun to watch

I disagree; such actions are petty and reflect a lack of consideration for basic etiquette - 小人 in other words. If the US Congress is to act upon their lowliness, then China should let them; it will be a temporary dent in Chinese pride but an eternal tarnishing of US' reputation. I have no doubt that the US State Department petitioned against this decision but, alas, the despicable prevailed. The best course of action for China should not be to express indignation, but rather, bemusement at the douchebaggery that the US Congress has seen fit to condone.

 

[mr.bean]

China Film Bureau chief wants protectionist policies to limit foreign competition in China's film market, couching it as "defend and fight for our cultural territory." Instead of competing and winning market shares, CFB boss Zhang Hongsen wants higher trade barriers. Zhang's preferred policy not only limit Chinese consumers choice, it also goes against dictums of Beijing's Third Plenum to have markets play decisive roles. Bad move by the Zhang Hongsen and the China Film Bureau.

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its just protectionist policy under a good excuse of ''cultural territory''. it doesn't really limit Chinese consumers choice because trust me the young Chinese have seen every blockbuster Hollywood flick in HD. the avengers, thor, x-men,spiderman, superman, batman, captain America, resident evil series (which has a cult following in china so is the walking dead tv series), the bond franchise, transformers, everyone you can name they have seen it and a lot you haven't heard of, they have seen it. the mainland youth are also giant fans of Korean,japanese and hong kong films and television. there are so many Chinese movie sites that have every new American, Japanese, Korean, French for free all with Chinese subtitles. its just the Hollywood studios that are missing out on a lot of revenue.

 

[AssassinsMace]

The irony is China is more open to foreign movies than in the US. No other foreign film industry can say they have an equal share in box office performance in the US as compared to Hollywood movies in their country.

 

[Blackstone]

The irony is China is more open to foreign movies than in the US. No other foreign film industry can say they have an equal share in box office performance in the US as compared to Hollywood movies in their country.

Chinese consumers seem to love Hollywood movies, but CCP restricts foreign movies to just a few dozen a year, so it's not true China is more open to foreign films than US. Not even close.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Chinese consumers seem to love Hollywood movies, but CCP restricts foreign movies to just a few dozen a year, so it's not true China is more open to foreign films than US. Not even close.

What foreign movies are successful in the US? British movies? Since Hollywood movies are about 50% of the Chinese box office every year, can the US say the same the other way around?. I'll make it easier... include all foreign movies even the British ones and I'll throw in Australian and they still don't make anywhere close to being 50% of the US box office. The French were recently in China because French movies are popular in China. Chinese like Bollywood movies too from what I've heard. Don't spin about what the government restricts. I didn't say what the government likes. Most Americans don't watch foreign movies. The Chinese box office was about $3.6 billion dollars last year. If Hollywood movies made about half that, it comes to around $1.8 billion dollars. I bet all foreign movies combined didn't make $1.8 billion at the US box office last year. Also why do you think when there's a foreign movie that gets a lot of attention overseas, the US just doesn't distribute that movie in the US? What they do is take the movie and remake it with American actors. You call that being much more accepting of foreign movies?

There's another system for movies that hardly gets any restriction from Chinese authorities. That's how the Expendables movies were shown in China and plays much more like how foreign movies in the US get seen. And that is some movie distributor in China buys the rights for lets say $1 million for a foreign movie to be shown in China and he or she makes all the money the Chinese box office earns. There's no percentage earned much like how foreign movies get seen in the US. That's how Hollywood does business with foreign filmmakers and independents. Remember the Blair Witch Project? A Hollywood studio bought the rights for $1 million dollars. So all that money made in the box office which was over $140 million... none of it went to the moviemakers.

 

[Blackstone]

What foreign movies are successful in the US? British movies? Since Hollywood movies are about 50% of the Chinese box office every year, can the US say the same the other way around?. I'll make it easier... include all foreign movies even the British ones and I'll throw in Australian and they still don't make anywhere close to being 50% of the US box office. The French were recently in China because French movies are popular in China. Chinese like Bollywood movies too from what I've heard. Don't spin about what the government restricts. I didn't say what the government likes.

Don't confuse equal access to opportunity with equal outcome. If Xi Jinping is serious about having free markets play decisive roles, then attitudes like that must change. Hollywood films do well in China for lots of reasons, but the one that really counts is consumer preference. The only way Chinawood could compete effectively with Hollywood on even footing is to understand what customers want and provide them at the best price/quality mix. Whining about lack of success just doesn’t cut it.

Most Americans don't watch foreign movies.

There was a time most Americans purchased cars from Detroit, but now Toyota is the top seller. RCA was the king of US entertainment consoles, but Sony and Samsung dethrone it. IBM and Apple dominated the PC market for decades, until Japanese, Taiwanese, Korean, and now Chinese PC makers stormed their way onto the global market. The moral of the story is, build a better mouse trap and the world will beat a path to your door.

The Chinese box office was about $3.6 billion dollars last year. If Hollywood movies made about half that, it comes to around $1.8 billion dollars. I bet all foreign movies combined didn't make $1.8 billion at the US box office last year. Also why do you think when there's a foreign movie that gets a lot of attention overseas, the US just doesn't distribute that movie in the US? What they do is take the movie and remake it with American actors. You call that being much more accepting of foreign movies?

US doesn’t usually bar foreign films from domestic distribution, unless they’re obscene or break laws in some other ways. As for copying other people’s ideas, China should be the last one to talk! Besides, the more Hollywood copies foreign movies, the more Americans are exposed to different entertainment concepts and become more exposed to the global entertainment market. In the long-run, that's a good thing.

There's another system for movies that hardly gets any restriction from Chinese authorities. That's how the Expendables movies were shown in China and plays much more like how foreign movies in the US get seen. And that is some movie distributor in China buys the rights for lets say $1 million for a foreign movie to be shown in China and he or she makes all the money the Chinese box office earns. There's no percentage earned much like how foreign movies get seen in the US. That's how Hollywood does business with foreign filmmakers and independents. Remember the Blair Witch Project? A Hollywood studio bought the rights for $1 million dollars. So all that money made in the box office which was over $140 million... none of it went to the moviemakers.

In the information age, branding and intellectual property are often more valuable than actual products and services. China government’s trade barriers enable Chinawood to lowball known branding and intellectual property values, and that’s unfair trade practice.

Blair Witch Project was an unknown quantity that just happen to hit it big. The original movie makers had no idea their film would be such a sensation, so their $1 million deal sounds low. My guess is at the time, the movie makers were happy with the sale. Also, let's not forget the distribution company took a risk on an opportunity that paid out handsomely. Had the film bombed, the company could have lost money. I recall an old Chinese saying about doing business that goes something like 'pool our resource, take a risk, make a profit,' and that's exactly what happened with Blair Witch.

 

[AssassinsMace]

Don't confuse equal access to opportunity with equal outcome. If Xi Jinping is serious about having free markets play decisive roles, then attitudes like that must change. Hollywood films do well in China for lots of reasons, but the one that really counts is consumer preference. The only way Chinawood could compete effectively with Hollywood on even footing is to understand what customers want and provide them at the best price/quality mix. Whining about lack of success just doesn’t cut it.


There was a time most Americans purchased cars from Detroit, but now Toyota is the top seller. RCA was the king of US entertainment consoles, but Sony and Samsung dethrone it. IBM and Apple dominated the PC market for decades, until Japanese, Taiwanese, Korean, and now Chinese PC makers stormed their way onto the global market. The moral of the story is, build a better mouse trap and the world will beat a path to your door.



US doesn’t usually bar foreign films from domestic distribution, unless they’re obscene or break laws in some other ways. As for copying other people’s ideas, China should be the last one to talk! Besides, the more Hollywood copies foreign movies, the more Americans are exposed to different entertainment concepts and become more exposed to the global entertainment market. In the long-run, that's a good thing.



In the information age, branding and intellectual property are often more valuable than actual products and services. China government’s trade barriers enable Chinawood to lowball known branding and intellectual property values, and that’s unfair trade practice.

Blair Witch Project was an unknown quantity that just happen to hit it big. The original movie makers had no idea their film would be such a sensation, so their $1 million deal sounds low. My guess is at the time, the movie makers were happy with the sale. Also, let's not forget the distribution company took a risk on an opportunity that paid out handsomely. Had the film bombed, the company could have lost money. I recall an old Chinese saying about doing business that goes something like 'pool our resource, take a risk, make a profit,' and that's exactly what happened with Blair Witch.

All you just wrote doesn't answer what foreign movies are such great successes in the US according to you? Did I say Hollywood copies foreign films? I was using that as an example how Americans don't like foreign films not charging Hollywood copies. If there's a foreign film success, Hollywood doesn't distribute that movie in the US. They remake it with American actors. Meaning they know Americans don't like watching foreign movies.

 

[Blackstone]

All you just wrote doesn't answer what foreign movies are such great successes in the US according to you? Did I say Hollywood copies foreign films? I was using that as an example how Americans don't like foreign films not charging Hollywood copies. If there's a foreign film success, Hollywood doesn't distribute that movie in the US. They remake it with American actors. Meaning they know Americans don't like watching foreign movies.

So what if Americans have their own tastes and would rather see remakes of foreign movies than the original with subtitles and unfamiliar actors? It's a free country, and people vote with their wallets. If Hollywood could make money on foreign films without remaking them, it would do so, and if it could make more money with remakes, it would do that too. The customer is king.

What's really bothering you?

 

[AssassinsMace]

So what if Americans have their own tastes and would rather see remakes of foreign movies than the original with subtitles and unfamiliar actors? It's a free country, and people vote with their wallets. If Hollywood could make money on foreign films without remaking them, it would do so, and if it could make more money with remakes, it would do that too. The customer is king.

What's really bothering you?

Funny, you're the one that argued so strongly that Americans are more open to foreign movies than Chinese. I just asked for examples and instead you just give a lot of digression. Like what does a free country have to do with your argument that Americans are more open to foreign movies?

What's bothering you since you seem to be the one deflecting.