Chinese Engine Development

kwaigonegin

kwaigonegin

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Not sure what you guys are arguing about tl'dr but an ECU is part of FADEC which controls and manages the aircraft turbofan's characteristics during the entire flight regime.
It's basically the brain that cintrols most modern jet engines.
 
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CMP

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kwaigonegin said:
Not sure what you guys are arguing about tl'dr but an ECU is part of FADEC which controls and manages the aircraft turbofan's characteristics during the entire flight regime.
It's basically the brain that cintrols most modern jet engines.
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What do those acronyms stand for?
 
by78

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kwaigonegin said:
Not sure what you guys are arguing about tl'dr but an ECU is part of FADEC which controls and manages the aircraft turbofan's characteristics during the entire flight regime.
It's basically the brain that cintrols most modern jet engines.
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that started this discussion, the ECU stands for Engine Core Upgrade, not engine control unit. Amusingly, our village genius (@minusone) didn't know that, which is rather comical, since it was he who provided the article in the first place! Heck, he probably still doesn't know, since this isn't the first time he quoted something without actually having read or properly understood it.

Pure comedic gold, I tell you.

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Overbom

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You guys keep falling over TheDrive's clickbait titles lol

The engine is fine. The F-35 program office though is a special kind of stupid. Can we move on now?
"We have been eating into the life of this engine since the beginning of the program, because we did under-spec the engine and its requirements,"
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"The original program engine specification allocated 15 kW [kilowatts] of bleed air extraction to support system cooling requirements, and the F135 engine was designed, tested, and qualified to this specification with a level of margin available for future growth," Schmidt wrote. "During the final stages of initial aircraft development, air vehicle cooling requirements grew to exceed planned bleed air extraction."
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"To provide the necessary bleed air, the engine is required to run hotter, and the program is realizing the effects of this through an increase in operating temperature, and a decrease in engine life, which is driving earlier depot inductions and an increase in lifecycle cost," the written testimony adds.
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by78 said:
In the context of
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that started this discussion, the ECU stands for Engine Core Upgrade, not engine control unit. Amusingly, our village genius (@minusone) didn't know that, which is rather comical, since it was he who provided the article in the first place! Heck, he probably still doesn't know, since this isn't the first time he quoted something without actually having read or properly understood it.

Pure comedic gold, I tell you.

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I don't know about in this case, but it's extremely common to have very many acronyms that actually stand for different things.
 
by78

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Overbom said:
You guys keep falling over TheDrive's clickbait titles lol

The engine is fine. The F-35 program office though is a special kind of stupid. Can we move on now?
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Well, there is really only one person (@minusone) who fell for the clickbait title. It's no surprise that he is the very same genius who has consistently demonstrated a lack of reading comprehension, intellectual honesty, and operational control over his mouth, and one who eagerly fibs, misrepresents, lies, and spreads nonsense from suspect sources without using any critical filter. When challenged or contradicted, he deflects and obfuscates, erects straw men, lies some more, hurls accusations, plays the victim, digs deeper, throws tantrums, all the while being dismissive toward and openly hostile to constructive feedback and explanations on forum norms from other members on multiple occasions. In other words, he ticks all the boxes for
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by78 said:
In the context of
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that started this discussion, the ECU stands for Engine Core Upgrade, not engine control unit. Amusingly, our village genius (@minusone) didn't know that, which is rather comical, since it was he who provided the article in the first place! Heck, he probably still doesn't know, since this isn't the first time he quoted something without actually having read or properly understood it.

Pure comedic gold, I tell you.

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Dude just can't stop throwing insult aren't you? Im not even referring to the ECU as in the term for the F135 next upgrade.

I'm just helping you to round up your BS about F135 being perfect but yet under-spec. But i was surprised you have no freaking clue about ECU a.k.a FADEC being a hardware component of the engine.

Proud boy got his pride hurt by the fact that F135 is pure trash that rendered most of the F35 fleet on the ground.
 
by78

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minusone said:
Dude just can't stop throwing insult aren't you? Im not even referring to the ECU as in the term for the F135 next upgrade.

I'm just helping you to round up your BS about F135 being perfect but yet under-spec. But i was surprised you have no freaking clue about ECU a.k.a FADEC being a hardware component of the engine.

Proud boy got his pride hurt by the fact that F135 is pure trash that rendered most of the F35 fleet on the ground.
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There you go again.

1) They are not insults if they are facts, which they most definitely are.
2) Again with the lying. I never said F135 was perfect. Show me where I said it was "perfect".
3) No,
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which was used in the
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you had provided. Hello, didn't you read your own article, boy genius? Here, I'll make it easier, please refer to the image below for the highlighted part.

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P.S. How does lying come so easily to you? It's fascinating how some can lie as effortlessly as they blink.
 
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Overbom said:
You guys keep falling over TheDrive's clickbait titles lol

The engine is fine. The F-35 program office though is a special kind of stupid. Can we move on now?
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The engine is fine, just ECU glitch capping the engine which cannot be sorted for decade long, and led to the entire fleet grounded with minimal sorting rate.

A glitch that caused the engine to overrun and expedite its wear and cut down MTBO is not a sign of an unreliable engine.

Now imagine replacing that with WS-10 and J20 being grounded for the same issues.

To make an excuse for F135, the genius Mod isolated FADEC from the engine as stand alone part. Assuming that's even the source of the problem to begin with, because a perfectly working F135 cannot solve the current glitch until they received new upgrades to their power module, the core of the unit, and hence the term Core Upgrade.

Wait a minute.....the engine was under-spec, so why they need new upgrades that clearly focused on improving the power boost to solve the current problem ASSUMING THE CONTEMPORARY BLOCK IS FINE.

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