Chinese Engine Development

BoraTas

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Could it possibly be the engine for a new large transporter in the same class as C-5 Galaxy? I remember someone mentioned a few days ago on the presentation event(the one that announced LRIP for WS-15) that the event also hinted at a new transport plane.
The engine looks too small for even WS-20, let alone an engine for such an aircraft. It is also too wide for a low-bypass turbofan. So it can be a medium bypass WS-10 or WS-15 derivative. Which is good news TBH. I can't see why China would need such an engine for anything other than a stealth bomber.
 

latenlazy

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So it does seem like an outer casing/shroud that holds the stages together. Upon more research, this concept has seen some studies and testing by various countries in the past few decades. While reduced stage count is a benefit, the mechanical load paths are quite a bit more complicated, and the outer shroud that holds the alternate stages would see quite a bit of force that requires heavier structure. Not sure if the tradeoffs are necessarily worth it. Is there any more evidence that this is the direction that the Chinese next generation engine is going? There are plenty of concepts, not all of which are used or applicable at a larger scale.
 

BoraTas

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A claim here on reddit that beyond superalloy, US is going to ceramics
https://www.reddit.com/r/LessCredibleDefence/comments/122oo45/_/jdrgsyl
Redditors: The US is going ceramics
USA: Will likely cancel new engine development for the F-35 unless Europeans agree to share the cost

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Jokes aside. CMC was long thought of as a successor to the nickel superalloys. The problem is they are brittle and hard to manufacture with the current cooling solutions metal blades use.
 
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Atomicfrog

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Redditors: The US is going ceramics
USA: Will likely cancel new engine development for the F-35 unless Europeans agree to share the cost

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Jokes aside. CMC was long thought of as a successor to the nickel superalloys. The problem is they are brittle and hard to manufacture with the current cooling solutions metal blades use.
US look a lot like India lately... overhyping projects and cancelling them just before they hatch. At least design teams remains way more humble in China.
 
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BoraTas

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Us look a lot like India lately... overhyping projects and cancelling them just before they hatch. At least design teams remains way more humble in China.
Despite all the things Western chauvinists write about Russia, the USA hypes prototypes and power point slides a lot too. The new B-21 unveiling was of that nature. They didn't roll the aircraft out of the hangar, they didn't show any aspect of the aircraft other than its front, we know the aircraft hasn't even flown yet. Yet they made a massive event out of the unveiling.
 

sunnymaxi

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Redditors: The US is going ceramics
USA: Will likely cancel new engine development for the F-35 unless Europeans agree to share the cost

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Jokes aside. CMC was long thought of as a successor to the nickel superalloys. The problem is they are brittle and hard to manufacture with the current cooling solutions metal blades use.
last year China successfully finished small scale testing of 3D printed CMC blisk..

how do you see this development.
 

gelgoog

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Despite all the things Western chauvinists write about Russia, the USA hypes prototypes and power point slides a lot too. The new B-21 unveiling was of that nature. They didn't roll the aircraft out of the hangar, they didn't show any aspect of the aircraft other than its front, we know the aircraft hasn't even flown yet. Yet they made a massive event out of the unveiling.
Yep. Like I told you guys, the best example of this was the Boeing Dreamliner unveiling event. Just read about it. They rolled out an aircraft which was assembled with fasteners which were not aircraft grade, they basically rolled out an empty shell and passed it as an actual flying prototype. They had to disassemble and reassemble it all over again afterwards.
 

latenlazy

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Yep. Like I told you guys, the best example of this was the Boeing Dreamliner unveiling event. Just read about it. They rolled out an aircraft which was assembled with fasteners which were not aircraft grade, they basically rolled out an empty shell and passed it as an actual flying prototype. They had to disassemble and reassemble it all over again afterwards.
When your entire corporate livelihood depends on marketing perceptions to shareholder investors.
 
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