Chinese Engine Development

latenlazy

Brigadier
I am no expert on engines. But from what I know the engine would have to fit below the wing of the aircraft. The Y-20 has a high mounted wing compared with the 747. So even if it is smaller overall it might just be it would easily fit in the Y-20. The aircraft would also need to have the capability to keep the engine fed with fuel, and to be able to operate with that engine out. That is where things could be dicier.
Y-20 has max payload of 60 tonnes. Shave off one engine and it should still be able to do 40 tonnes easy. You don’t need 40 tonnes of additional fuel to power a single 350 kN engine for tests. 3 WS-18 are not going to struggle with carrying a single CJ-2000 in engine out conditions so long as you’re not flying max payload on the Y-20 testbed.
 

sunnymaxi

Major
Registered Member
Y-20 has max payload of 60 tonnes. Shave off one engine and it should still be able to do 40 tonnes easy. You don’t need 40 tonnes of additional fuel to power a single 350 kN engine for tests. 3 WS-18 are not going to struggle with carrying a single CJ-2000 in engine out conditions so long as you’re not flying max payload on the Y-20 testbed.
by the time, D-30/WS-18 have been replaced with WS-20 engines even on testbed aircraft.
 

Tirdent

Junior Member
Registered Member
i have one question.

i have been discussing CJ-2000 engine with my Chinese friends. one Chinese guy said, we don't have large aircraft for high altitude test. Y-20 is not powerful enough to carry big CJ-2000 engine .we need aircraft like 747 for CJ-2000 airborne testing like GE do.

isn't Y-20 big enough to carry CJ-2000 engine. ? i think Y-20 is enough to perform any type of duty include high altitude test for large engines.

what is your expert opinion sir.

Well, if we take the Il-76 as an indication (which is after all a related design that is very close in size and configuration):

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Fan diameter 2.9m, weight 6.4t (the test engine was pretty grossly overweight). Both are equivalent to a GENx-class conventional turbofan. If anything, the 35tf thrust load could be the biggest problem.
 

sunnymaxi

Major
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Well, if we take the Il-76 as an indication (which is after all a related design that is very close in size and configuration):

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Fan diameter 2.9m, weight 6.4t (the test engine was pretty grossly overweight). Both are equivalent to a GENx-class conventional turbofan. If anything, the 35tf thrust load could be the biggest problem.
fine. so you are saying Y-20 should be able to carry CJ-2000 easily. above latenlazy sir cleared.
 

Deino

Lieutenant General
Staff member
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Last eek we saw the first image of the new engine testbed based on the Y-20A, but as it seems (if this image is a recent one) the good old Il-76SK (?) is still active. But does anyone have an idea what engine this is, it looks wider than the original D-30KPs but not like a WS-20?

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