Chinese Economics Thread

[Skye_ZTZ_113]

Care to point some of those rules out? Or are you just making baseless claims again?

He does have a point that China might end up making a very similar system gamed towards funding the Homeland at the expense of everyone else. Personally, I have never liked the idea of the stock market in its current form but one should take care to not make the same mistakes as the original format when trying to set up an alternative.....especially if there are questionable motivations at play.

 

[solarz]

He does have a point that China might end up making a very similar system gamed towards funding the Homeland at the expense of everyone else. Personally, I have never liked the idea of the stock market in its current form but one should take care to not make the same mistakes as the original format when trying to set up an alternative.....especially if there are questionable motivations at play.

"Funding the Homeland"? What exactly is that supposed to mean?

 

[Equation]

But of course only CCP overlords may impose self-serving rules on China's citizens, and they do a great job on that.

I thought the Christian churches did that to their followers as well, government rules and constitution be darn.

 

[Blackstone]

Care to point some of those rules out? Or are you just making baseless claims again?

Even fanbois might find it hard to deny around 300,000 Communist officials were punished for corruption.

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China’s top judicial bodies have vowed to intensify the country's crackdown on corrupt senior government and party officials this year as President Xi Jinping continues to wage a high-profile war against graft.

Delivering a work report at the annual National People’s Congress in Beijing on Sunday, Cao Jianming, head of the Supreme People’s Procuratorate, said there would be zero tolerance for “violations of law and discipline”.

22 high-ranking officials stood trial last year, with another 41 placed under investigation, according to Cao, Hong Kong's

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reported.

Among those punished was former security chief Zhou Yongkang, who was

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for taking bribes, abusing power and disclosing state secrets in 2015.

China’s anti-corruption campaign saw nearly 300,000 officials punished last year, with 82,000 given “severe disciplinary punishments and major demotions”.

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reports that many commentators viewed the release of details as a reminder to officials that the Communist Party would not stop in its pursuit of corrupt members.

 

[solarz]

Even fanbois might find it hard to deny around 300,000 Communist officials were punished for corruption.

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LOL, contradicting yourself much? You said:

But of course only CCP overlords may impose self-serving rules on China's citizens, and they do a great job on that.

Since these guys were *punished*, they obviously weren't following the rules, whatever they might be.

So again I ask, what self-serving rules has the CPC imposed on China's citizens?

 

[Blackstone]

LOL, contradicting yourself much? You said:



Since these guys were *punished*, they obviously weren't following the rules, whatever they might be.

So again I ask, what self-serving rules has the CPC imposed on China's citizens?

Ok, so you don't deny massive corruption exist in China, and it means we're making some progress at least. To answer your question, think of the following:
1) Xi Jinping himself said crackdown continues unabated, yes...?
2) Why would Chairman Xi say that unless he thinks there are still Communist officials out there making self-serving rules...?

 

[solarz]

Ok, so you don't deny massive corruption exist in China, and it means we're making some progress at least. To answer your question, think of the following:
1) Xi Jinping himself said crackdown continues unabated, yes...?
2) Why would Chairman Xi say that unless he thinks there are still Communist officials out there making self-serving rules...?

No Blackstone, Xi is saying that because he thinks there are still Communist officials out there breaking the rules.

 

[Equation]

Even fanbois might find it hard to deny around 300,000 Communist officials were punished for corruption.

Meanwhile the corrupt government officials outside of China are still in office. Nope, voting for either criminal A or criminal B won't change the current corruption going on in Washington D.C.

 

[plawolf]

What's worse, catching and punishing 300,000 people for corruption and reducing the overall level of corruption and bad officials, or catching no one, declare your rules are perfect and put up with ever more rampant and flagrant abuses of position for personal gain by officials at the expense of the taxpayer and nation?

Besides, the entire reason that so many were caught was because they broke the rules. If the rules were written to serve the interests of corrupt officials rather than the national good, far far fewer would have been caught out since they would have legalised much of the bad things they wanted to do.

It was a silly nonsensical flame bait comment, and no amount of spin can change that fact.

 

[Blackstone]

I thought the Christian churches did that to their followers as well, government rules and constitution be darn.

Have you read the PRC Constitution? If not you should it (see link below), because it's a beautiful document full of Human Rights guarantees, and it's also a good object lesson on why ink on a piece of paper is meaningless without great institutions like low-corruption governments and independent judiciary backing it up. Here are some of the rights in the PRC Constitution-

• Right to religious believes (or not)
• Right to free speech
• Right to assembly
• Right to protest
• Right to freedom of the Press
• Right for 18 year olds to vote and to stand for elections
• Equality of all citizens regardless of race, creed, gender..., etc.
• The Armed Forces of China belongs to the people and not to the Communist Party

There are so many rights guaranteed to Chinese citizens, and even to foreigners in China, is scares the Communist Party. That's why Chairman Xi discourages any talk of primacy of the PRC Constitution and puts Human Rights Lawyers in jail for using the document to constrain power of the Communist Party. Who was it that said political power flowed out of gun barrels? Oh, yeah, it was the original Red Emperor himself, Mao Zedong.

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