The number of 4-yr STEM degrees in China is available here:
US degree issuance here:
China produces ~4x the number of 4-yr STEM degrees (so proportionally scalable to population and that is only going to go down due to China’s demographic crisis) and ~2x the number of 4-yr degree. All in all, not a good look for the supposoded superiority of China’s elementary and secondary education when it produces proportionally fewer college degrees and a proportionally similar number of STEM degrees.
Oh it's not a good look now to be proportionally lower than the US? I didn't know you had such a poor opinion of America; I really didn't. Even among the China supporters here, we are well aware that China is a developing country while the US is a developed country so we are looking to surpass it overall but per capita or by proportion, we have a while to go. But here you are ratting off about how China should be able to hand the US its ass proportionally as well or else it's a bad look! Didn't know you thought of the US as a bottom line do-not-be-worse-than-this country. Well, it hasn't happened yet; we were founded in 1949. We'll surpass the US overall before we do it "by proportion."
Anyway, there's no demographic crisis as China's growth comes from the rural population becoming urban, not just adding more people and even with an extremely sizeable reduction in population, China would still have over 3x that of America.
Nah, it’s not. China needs to produce substantially more than what the US is producing to even come close to matching US levels because the US produced more in the past.
That's cus America's prime was in the past but ours in in the future. And China is producing much much more, just not more per capita, which would mean over 4x more.
As it relates to STEM doctorates: no, barely matching the US for a whole year, nah.
What does the whole year mean? China produces more STEM doctorates than the US. Did you read the Georgetown study Supercat and I cited? Or too painful?
"Based on current enrollment patterns, we project that by 2025 Chinese universities will produce more than 77,000 STEM PhD graduates per year compared to approximately 40,000 in the United States. If international students are excluded from the U.S. count, Chinese STEM PhD graduates would outnumber their U.S. counterparts more than three-to-one."
How about this one?
"In 2010. Chinese universities graduated 34,801 STEM doctorates compared to 26,076 by American universities.
Over the last decade, China has steadily increased its lead. In 2019, Chinese universities produced 49,498 PhDs in STEM fields, while U.S. universities produced 33,759."
I wouldn't call that margin "barely" at all and that's 3 year old data with China's lead rising. And if you compare America's 2019 numbers to China's 2010 numbers, you'll see that the US is over a decade behind China in sheer number, not per capita.
What unkind truth? Convergence by poorer countries?
The unkind truth that China prioritized lives over money and still beat the US by nearly a 3-to-1 margin.
If anything, it’s China that’s fallen off the convergence train with fanatical zero COVID while the US economy chugs away at steady 2-3% growth until the end of time.
21% vs 7.5% is falling off? LOL I wanna be that kinda off forever. If China "chugged away" at 2-3% after COVID, I would call that crawling, and so would every Western media outlet. The CCP would replace its leadership if it got that bad. And while China's per capita GDP is a ways off from America's, once again, the total GDP is very close. That's why America's sweating bullets. If America had 4x the GDP of China and China did a 21% vs 7.5%, there's cushion. But with the GDP this close in nominal terms (it would actually be closer had America not inflated the value of the USD trying to stave off runaway inflation) and China already significantly ahead in PPP or the real GDP measure 21% over 7.5% is another ugly truth that the US will have to swallow. The fact that it was done with China still in lockdown... LOL The US should just give up.
China has had many decades of trying to not have many firms in league rankings of the largest pharmaceutical/machine tool/integrated circuit/etc firms.
China has firms that are worldwide-sanction proof making the top level equipment anywhere. America had many decades as a hegemon to stop China but ended up a global beggar asking for other countries to help technologically embargo China only to be rejected by everyone non-stop for a year. I honestly thought the US had more power than that...
Sounds like more fanatical zero COVID to absolutely pummel business investment and consumption in China for decades
Hey, if it keeps up like this we might as well play with a handicap and keep China COVID Zero even after COVID and we'll still win. We'll run the US down anyway. Your numbers, not mine.
(or maybe centuries until broad spectrum antivirals come close to being effective)
Damn, you're stupid... LOL Nobody can be this purely stupid; it has to be mixed with massive amounts of hopium.
