Chinese Economics Thread

[Petrolicious88]

This is the problem with this forum. Any moderate criticism of CCP immediatedly gets tagged as "hate" by overzealous supporters.

Still, there has been incremental progress. Criticising the Zero Covid idiocy a few months ago garnered zero positive responses. Today, more and more people are slowly accepting that it's a bad strategy but are divided on when to end it. There is still a big faction of people who are hardline supporters of the CCP no matter what they do, and that dumbs the conversation down. Like, you don't have to accept all the Western media BS to admit that the CCP isn't flawless and they make mistakes. Like, seriously, it won't hurt you. I promise.


The vast majority of Covid deaths in all countries are concentrated in the 70+ age bracket. How many promising scientists are there to be found? I'd argue that even leaders above the age of 70 shouldn't be in the business anymore.

Covid isn't going away. It's going to be with us for years to come. So there are only two choices: either China accepts having permanently lower economic growth by ~2 percentage points per year (which adds up to a lot over a ten year time horizon) or it will have to accept a fraction of its elderly dying earlier than expected. So far it has chosen to prioritise the boomers over the economy.

And no one is advocating for western style management of Covid. Most resentment is towards mass lockdowns, extreme restriction of peoples freedoms, or physically bolting people’s doors. Dynamic Zero Covid hasn’t helped the economy bc people are scared that the government could revert back to those policies.

You can do a lot to prevent infections/reduce severe symptoms without mass lockdowns. Mask mandates, basic social distancing, vaccination, vitamin D, Traditional Chinese medicine etc…

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Bro of my favorite Filipinos dishes beside adobo is Kare kare, dinuguan, Litson and Filipino style Barbecue (street food variety).

What about Jollibee?

 

[ansy1968]

What about Jollibee?

Well let me grade it this way, the best Chicken:

1) Peri peri

2) Aristocrat

3) Savory

4) Mutsarap

5) Jollibee Chicken Joy

6)Tropical Hut Spring chicken

7)Mang Inasal

8) Popeye Chicken

and so on

20) McDonalds.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Well let me grade it this way

1) Peri peri

2) Aristocrat

3) Savory

4) Mutsarap

5) Jollibee Chicken Joy

6)Tropical Hut Spring chicken

7)Mang Inasal

8) Popeye Chicken

and so on

20) McDonalds.

Me, I stan Burger Singh.

 

[Petrolicious88]

Sure it is. China's political stability in large part rests on a premise of prioritizing people, including the elderly, over capital. Political stability and popular support tends to increase economic growth in the long run. Many people in the 60+ age bracket are professors who, though perhaps no longer good at personally conducting research (and are not expected to), are good at scientific management and finding the best research directions.

Nah. China’s stability rests continued economic prosperity, job creation, in return for absolute public loyalty. There can be no public criticism of the government/party. That’s political stability.

 

[ansy1968]

Lol Filipinos are only good at wearing Captain America T-shirts and ticking every single Marvel movie off their checklists... nuff said.

Pinoys' favorite uniform:

Bro I have a lot of Justice league T shirts and my favorite are Flash, Batman , Superman and because of @Loveleenkr, I'm now wearing Wonder woman T shirt frequently.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Nah. China’s stability rests continued economic prosperity, job creation, in return for absolute public loyalty. There can be no public criticism of the government/party. That’s political stability.

assertions without evidence can be refuted without evidence. no.

 

[tokenanalyst]

And no one is advocating for western style management of Covid. Most resentment is towards mass lockdowns, extreme restriction of peoples freedoms, or physically bolting people’s doors. Dynamic Zero Covid hasn’t helped the economy bc people are scared that the government could revert back to those policies.

You can do a lot to prevent infections/reduce severe symptoms without mass lockdowns. Mask mandates, basic social distancing, vaccination, vitamin D, Traditional Chinese medicine etc…

None of those will work as good as you think, don't get me wrong i still think is better than doing nothing but letting CoVID spread wildly will require some next level censorship to avoid panic in the public, COVID statistics will have to become a national secret and the economic benefits will be questionable at best because what is going to happen when you have millions and millions of workers getting sick at the same time? Force them to work sick?
At the moment the Chinese let this virus spread wildly in its population you can consider the COVID pandemic as "over", there will not even reasons to test for COVID anymore.

 

[ansy1968]

None of those will work as good as you think, don't get me wrong i still think is better than doing nothing but letting CoVID spread wildly will require some next level censorship to avoid panic in the public, COVID statistics will have to become a national secret and the economic benefits will be questionable at best because what is going to happen when you have millions and millions of workers getting sick at the same time? Force them to work sick?
At the moment the Chinese let this virus spread wildly in its population you can consider the COVID pandemic as "over", there will not even reasons to test for COVID anymore.

Bro all I can say is My house My rules, the rest are semantics.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

Yep in filipino dishes Vinegar is one of the main characters in a lot of other countries its usually just one of the side characters.
How could i forgot humba, people can wake up at 3 am for a plate with rice and humba any day of the week

How do you know all these dishes like humba (cebuano) adobo as Tagalog folks would call them