Chinese Economics Thread
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The virus is not going away anytime soon. The global community will have to learn to live with it just like the influenza virus; transition from pandemic to endemic.
One way China can still claim success and argue its system is superior to the West, is if it can now quickly develop a truly effective Anti-Viral (or Vaccine), and make it widely available to the Chinese public.
One way China can still claim success and argue its system is superior to the West, is if it can now quickly develop a truly effective Anti-Viral (or Vaccine), and make it widely available to the Chinese public.
Most mainland Chinese still support zero covid with the exception of some people in Shanghai. It is funny to see how people here think they know better. Let just say that the US and EU are in the borderline of hyperinflation and recession. If China isn't doing well, then the West is much much worse off.
This is double-standard at its finest.
The west does not have a "truly effective anti-viral (or vaccine)" either. And it has not been able to prevent mass infection and mass death from Covid. And you say the west is not inferior to China?
China isn't all ga-ga about claiming 'superiority' like your favorite petrol-hungering country does. Go wax an anal plug or something man.
CPC isn't an infallible political organization, entity never was, and never will be. But with all due respect to your opinion what the government has done with respect to their Zero-COVID policy is what's allowed the country relative to it's competitors in the world to have one of the lowest fatalities and infections relative to the size of it's massive population and density. The economy grew in 2020, 2021, and yes the current year may or may not be able to achieve the target goal but so what? It's not the end of the Chinese government or of China itself. Some of the folks here are so damn invested in bean counting and caught up with geopolitical competition wanting China to beat the U.S. etc. that we forget the Chinese government's intentions and purpose is to save CHINESE LIVES which ensure stability, which means economic prosperity further ahead.
I mean, can you honestly say here unequivocally that all the western countries that have moved away from Covid-19 strict policies are doing miles better than China economically speaking? I mean, am all ears. As a matter of fact, China is one of the 2 major countries not severely impacted by inflationary pressures most major countries are experiencing.
It remains to be seen how western countries are going to cope with a certain rise with Covid-19 reinfections since the majority of its people aren't even going to be bothered to follow any of the safety protocols for being fed up. So frankly speaking, China, the Chinese people, and the Chinese government should hold their heads up high and be proud of the achievement they achieved with enormous personal sacrifices and cooperation without it they would have seen millions in death and millions more infected. With that scenario you can kiss all that GDP growth goodbye. Perspective people, perspective.
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It's the most idiotic advice given by know-it-all failures. It's like listening to D student trying to tell an overachiever how to pass an examination.
I mean, there's no country out there comparable in size and scope to China that has achieved and accomplished what that country achieved with respect to saving lives and growing their economy at the same time? India? Lol Brazil? Lol, U.S. LOL ZERO countries.
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Oh it’s not. This must be the wrong forum then cause that's every other thread on this forum.
Short of Zero Covid (which is not sustainable), what else can be done. Both Pfizer's Paxlovid and Merck's Molnupiravir are only somewhat effective, but comes with serious side effects. China's "VV116" antiviral pill just passed stage 3 clinical trials (though not double - blinded). It may be better than Paxlovid without the serious drug interactions. It is a way out of the zero Covid lockdowns.
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China's policy isn't 'zero Covid', it's 'dynamic zero Covid' which is quite different.
Moreover, like others have already said, these years it's been clear that China has done well economically, especially in comparison to basically the rest of the world lol.
At the end of the day, the chinese government listen to their health experts as well as many other experts (economic, social etc.).
We're most likely gonna see some more changes in regards to their covid policy, as well as an eventual opening up (earlist next year I think, latest also next year imo).