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Hendrik_2000

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Wow that is an excellent article the author doesn't hold any punches He said it straight I like this passage

What Poverty Alleviation Says about China Today

Most religions, especially Abrahamic ones, put a very strong emphasis on helping the poor in their social doctrines. It would be highly disingenuous for the West to suggest that, because it is the Chinese who did it, somehow it isn’t commendable. Achieving zero extreme poverty in China, the most populated country in the world, which just forty years ago was as poor as the poorest countries in Africa, is an achievement on a scale the world has rarely, if ever, seen.

This transformation has even led some high-ranking Catholic figures such as Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the current chancellor of the Holy See’s Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, to declare that China is “the best implementer of the social doctrine of the Church” and to describe the country as “hold[ing] the common good above all else.”
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Sánchez Sorondo immediately faced a barrage of criticism for this remark. First Things ran an article arguing that we shouldn’t let “defenses of the ‘common good’ . . . slip into apologias for authoritarianism.” The article added that “rejecting liberalism in the name of the common good . . . mean embracing tyranny” and “totalitarian regimes.”
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Just like that, we were back to our familiar individual freedom versus collectivism debate.

Many people today go even further, claiming it is our duty to impose change on the Chinese so they conform to liberal values and principles. Even if the Chinese government was demonstrably the best at looking out for the interests of the Chinese as a collective, their doing so in an illiberal fashion means we see it as our duty to change their system, even if it means ending up with a government under which the Chinese are worse off. In such moments, it seems that we are the ones ready to compromise morality and reason for the sake of ideology.
 

Franklin

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China can't force its people to eat more American lobster when more alternatives are available.
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America is in a bad place to fight a economic war. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place with their domestic economy. Caught between high inflation, high debts and big asset bubble's.

Khrushchev once said that he wants to "bury America". Today China doesn't have to bury America. Because the Americans are doing it themselves. And they are doing a pretty good job at it. The only thing China has to do is to stand out of its way as the Americans are burying themselves.
 

ansy1968

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Wow that is an excellent article the author doesn't hold any punches He said it straight I like this passage

What Poverty Alleviation Says about China Today

Most religions, especially Abrahamic ones, put a very strong emphasis on helping the poor in their social doctrines. It would be highly disingenuous for the West to suggest that, because it is the Chinese who did it, somehow it isn’t commendable. Achieving zero extreme poverty in China, the most populated country in the world, which just forty years ago was as poor as the poorest countries in Africa, is an achievement on a scale the world has rarely, if ever, seen.

This transformation has even led some high-ranking Catholic figures such as Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, the current chancellor of the Holy See’s Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, to declare that China is “the best implementer of the social doctrine of the Church” and to describe the country as “hold[ing] the common good above all else.”
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Sánchez Sorondo immediately faced a barrage of criticism for this remark. First Things ran an article arguing that we shouldn’t let “defenses of the ‘common good’ . . . slip into apologias for authoritarianism.” The article added that “rejecting liberalism in the name of the common good . . . mean embracing tyranny” and “totalitarian regimes.”
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Just like that, we were back to our familiar individual freedom versus collectivism debate.

Many people today go even further, claiming it is our duty to impose change on the Chinese so they conform to liberal values and principles. Even if the Chinese government was demonstrably the best at looking out for the interests of the Chinese as a collective, their doing so in an illiberal fashion means we see it as our duty to change their system, even if it means ending up with a government under which the Chinese are worse off. In such moments, it seems that we are the ones ready to compromise morality and reason for the sake of ideology.
@Hendrik_2000 Welcome back bro, I miss you post, Yup this author had penned his last article and will be cancelled permanently for telling the truth.
 
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