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In4ser

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weig2000 said:
The problem is this kind of arbitrary, abrupt administrative measures are terrible means to achieve the goals. Better to use market mechanism to signal and implement the policy goals in this case.
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I fear the CCP becoming too heavy-handed recently with some of its policies and seeing laws and regulations as panaceas for all its problems. That's the problem with a top-down approach, you can become myopic about things. It's better for China to try to first experiment with cities some of its rules and spread it out slowly than announcing them out of the blue haphazardly. A lot of times China's government works all for the best like the High-Speed Trains but a boon can just as easily become a mistake like the One-Child Policy.
 
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Sorry, but annual emissions reduction targets should go. It is not rational to kill off the economy for "feel good" responses fr the World. Do you see the US or the EU shutting down production for climate change?

This is a trap set up for China. Unless I also see them shutting down production, this means that they (obviously) using climate change excuses to damage China
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Definitely agree. Who would give up economic growth for emission limits. I am surprised the Chinese leadership would fall for this western climate change pressure and BS! They should haves asked for compensation from western nations who have been polluting for centuries before agreeing to emission targets.

I feel they need to take away emission targets right now and keep factories running!
 
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MortyandRick said:
Definitely agree. Who would give up economic growth for emission limits. I am surprised the Chinese leadership would fall for this western climate change pressure and BS! They should haves asked for compensation from western nations who have been polluting for centuries before agreeing to emission targets.

I feel they need to take away emission targets right now and keep factories running!
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and if they don't what the rest of the world is gonna do about it?
You guesses it right: pay more for less goods. What choice do they have? Move to a place where there is more electricity? Where is that?

Nowhere? No problem we will start building coal plants. Who's gonna fund them and build them again after papa Xi said no one in China can offer finance or expertise?

This is the perfect time to do it. Because to be frank, the rest of the world sucks our dicks for their supplies. SEA and India have been fucked by COVID. Africa can kiss those coal plants goodbye. American power grid cannot sustain a 1mm snow fall. EU? Laughable.

Don't be fooled by industrial output calculated by monetary value. A Boeing jet may be worth as much as 10 billion rolls of toilet paper but the entire US cannot make 10 billion rolls of toilet paper.
 
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Tyler

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visitor123 said:
and if they don't what the rest of the world is gonna do about it?
You guesses it right: pay more for less goods. What choice do they have? Move to a place where there is more electricity? Where is that?

Nowhere? No problem we will start building coal plants. Who's gonna fund them and build them again after papa Xi said no one in China can offer finance or expertise?

This is the perfect time to do it. Because to be frank, the rest of the world sucks our dicks for their supplies. SEA and India have been fucked by COVID. Africa can kiss those coal plants goodbye. American power grid cannot sustain a 1mm snow fall. EU? Laughable.

Don't be fooled by industrial output calculated by monetary value. A Boeing jet may be worth as much as 10 billion rolls of toilet paper but the entire US cannot make 10 billion rolls of toilet paper.
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There will be more inflation in the US, as they can only import more from China, not from Vietnam or India. Biden cannot carry out their infrastructure plan without Chinese products. Then they will ask China to increase production again and stop complaining about RMB not appreciating enough.
 
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visitor123 said:
and if they don't what the rest of the world is gonna do about it?
You guesses it right: pay more for less goods. What choice do they have? Move to a place where there is more electricity? Where is that?

Nowhere? No problem we will start building coal plants. Who's gonna fund them and build them again after papa Xi said no one in China can offer finance or expertise?

This is the perfect time to do it. Because to be frank, the rest of the world sucks our dicks for their supplies. SEA and India have been fucked by COVID. Africa can kiss those coal plants goodbye. American power grid cannot sustain a 1mm snow fall. EU? Laughable.

Don't be fooled by industrial output calculated by monetary value. A Boeing jet may be worth as much as 10 billion rolls of toilet paper but the entire US cannot make 10 billion rolls of toilet paper.
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Hopefully they build some of those new thorium 4th gen nuclear reactor design and streamline that building process and industrial sector for export to BRI nations. If im not mistaken they recently finished a 2MW one and hope to have a 370MW on in 2030.
 
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