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siegecrossbow

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Australia is large enough with mineral resources and has such a low population they will manage.
But their economy and living standards will take a huge nosedive. I remember not that long ago some Australian economist thinking their economy was exceptional because they did not have a major recession for like two decades. Not so exceptional now.

They didn’t have a recession for two decades because China didn’t have one.
 

Sincho

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They didn’t have a recession for two decades because China didn’t have one.
Yes, before China came along, Australia's economy was for many years in the doldrums. Being an agricultural country, they were in quite a hopeless situation then because the countries that ostensibly could provide a big market for their produce such as North America, UK and the European countries also produce the same range of agricultural products. Australia has forgotten about those times.
 

BoraTas

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Good luck to Didi since the US thinks it's a better place do business for a Chinese company aside from US scrutiny and paranoia.
"And, you know, for me, the evidence comes if you look at what happened in the last year with the coronavirus, I mean, they covered it up. And then if you look at the United States, we came up with a vaccine."

I don't know what can I say to this. This is an alternative reality. In the real reality, the US lost 100x more people to Covid-19 despite having a quarter of the population of China. The US came up with only a single vaccine (Yes, J&J was developed in Belgium and Biontech was developed in Germany) while China came up with 7 vaccines. All I see is a country with dysfunctional leadership and a population largely detached from reality.
 

Strangelove

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"And, you know, for me, the evidence comes if you look at what happened in the last year with the coronavirus, I mean, they covered it up. And then if you look at the United States, we came up with a vaccine."

I don't know what can I say to this. This is an alternative reality. In the real reality, the US lost 100x more people to Covid-19 despite having a quarter of the population of China. The US came up with only a single vaccine (Yes, J&J was developed in Belgium and Biontech was developed in Germany) while China came up with 7 vaccines. All I see is a country with dysfunctional leadership and a population largely detached from reality.

It's all good, we want them believing in their own propaganda - overestimating themselves while underestimating China and Russia, this is a sure way they don't properly address their collapsing nation.
 

Xizor

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For China, CAI was primarily about buying the Europeans geopolitically, pulling them away from the US. But the virtue signal ended that. Credit to the Amerikkkans, they have their dicks and hands up so far up European asses that it's literally a puppet show.

Via CAI, China also would've got some food certification concession from the EU, allowing Chinese food products to enter EU market easier, but those are small numbers.

Meantime US firms Vanguard and Goldman Sach are massively expanding in Shanghai, at European expense. Vanguard closed its Hong Kong office and moved top staff to Shanghai while GS is making 400+ new hires there...insane.

With bigger Wall St footprint in China, Wall St is now a de facto China lobby.
Hopefully, they are to be put on a leash. The entry of WallSt into China isn't a sign of good things.

China must find ways to constrict and eventually restrict their growth and reach. This isn't good.
 

weig2000

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"And, you know, for me, the evidence comes if you look at what happened in the last year with the coronavirus, I mean, they covered it up. And then if you look at the United States, we came up with a vaccine."

I don't know what can I say to this. This is an alternative reality. In the real reality, the US lost 100x more people to Covid-19 despite having a quarter of the population of China. The US came up with only a single vaccine (Yes, J&J was developed in Belgium and Biontech was developed in Germany) while China came up with 7 vaccines. All I see is a country with dysfunctional leadership and a population largely detached from reality.

Yet the US is hard at working to convince the pleb that the US is again the No.1 and will always be No. 1.

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Apparently, the US is now No.1 in dealing with COVID19, according to the innovative and sophisticated COVID Residence Ranking designed by Bloomberg, and China is at No.8

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According to this insightful Bloomberg report, China will never surpass the US economically in nominal term. They're apparently less confident about that and put out a ridiculous title to be more convincing. The arguments? Nothing particularly new.

The US establishment and elites are increasingly unsure and insecure. They start to create alternative universe to convince the pleb and themselves. Their behaviors start to show Jail Hind symptoms.
 

sndef888

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Since Australia wants to bite the hand that feeds them, China should just cut off ties with them.

It's absolutely disgusting how these imperialist anglo nations take China's money and funnel them to information terrorists like ASPI, NED, BBC. US, UK, Australia, Canada, these 4 are all the same snake with different clothing
 

Strangelove

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Hopefully, they are to be put on a leash. The entry of WallSt into China isn't a sign of good things.

China must find ways to constrict and eventually restrict their growth and reach. This isn't good.

I agree 200%, Wall St in China is as much a risk as there are certain benefits.

Also their people are infiltrating Chinese firms. Didi is an example, many of Didi's directors and C-level folks were helicoptered in from Wall St investment banks, typically well-connected Chinese kids from Lvy league who have sold their souls to satan. But if Didi's recent episode indicates anything is that Beijing regulators are still on top of things and will cut their balls off if required.
 
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