Chinese Economics Thread

j17wang

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Is there anywhere I can look up how much if any China's helping subsidize wages during the pandemic?

I would be surprised if there was any subsidies during the pandemic. Keep in mind Wuhan is under 1% of the population of China and was only in lockdown for about 70 days. I'm gonna guess magnitudes more subsidies have been given post-pandemic for the looming tech war with the US.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
I would be surprised if there was any subsidies during the pandemic. Keep in mind Wuhan is under 1% of the population of China and was only in lockdown for about 70 days. I'm gonna guess magnitudes more subsidies have been given post-pandemic for the looming tech war with the US.
It is not direct subsidy but yes there help for small firm
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  • China’s top executive body, the State Council, announced late Tuesday that small and micro-sized enterprises can defer loan repayments past the first quarter of next year as needed.
  • Banks lending to these small businesses with government help for 40% of such loans can now keep that support beyond the end of this year as appropriate, according to a government statement.
  • These smallest businesses have been disproportionately affected by the coronavirus pandemic, said Liu Xiangdong, deputy director of the economic research department at the Beijing-based China Center for International Economic Exchanges.
 

weig2000

Captain
Looks the deal has cleared all roadblocks and is ready to be signed.

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Formal announcement expected following ‘positive developments’ on labour standards

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in Brussels 44 MINUTES AGO

The EU and China are close to reaching a long-awaited business investment deal as Brussels seeks to level the playing field for European companies operating in the Chinese market.

During a meeting with national ambassadors in Brussels on Monday, the European Commission reported progress on talks with Beijing, including on the core remaining issue of workers’ rights in China. No objections were raised and a formal announcement by the commission that the deal has been reached is expected this week, according to EU diplomats.

“The commission reported on recent positive developments in the negotiations with China including on labour standards,” said one EU diplomat. “Ambassadors broadly welcomed the latest progress in the EU-China talks.”

“The [European] Council presidency concluded at the end of the meeting that no delegation had raised a stop sign and that the way for a political endorsement was thus cleared,” the diplomat added.

The EU, which has been racing to meet an end of year deadline for the deal, has seen the talks as a core part of its strategy for managing increasingly tense trade relations with China, which it has identified as an “economic competitor” and a “systemic rival”.

The pact is designed to remove barriers to investment in China such as joint-venture requirements and caps on foreign equity in certain industries. Sectors set to be covered include manufacturing, financial services, real estate, environmental services, construction, and auxiliary services to support shipping and air transport.

For China, the deal is set to lock in existing market-access rights while offering some investment possibilities in renewable energies.

But the agreement is expected to cause frictions with the incoming administration of US president-elect Joe Biden. The new US administration would “welcome early consultations with our European partners on our common concerns about China's economic practices”, Jake Sullivan — who will serve as Mr Biden’s national security adviser — tweeted last week.

The deal would come less than a month after the EU published a transatlantic strategy in which it urged the US to work with it to meet the “strategic challenge” posed by China.

The Biden team has made clear that it will seek to build a multilateral alliance with the EU and other partners to put pressure on Beijing over practices, such as industrial subsidies and forced technology transfer, that have strained the global system of rules-based trade.

EU officials have said that the deal will level the playing field with the US, which has secured some of the same benefits through its “Phase 1” trade deal with China.

An agreement may also be contentious with rights activists, given allegations that China uses Uighur Muslims detained in large numbers in Xinjiang province as forced labour. Beijing denies the claims.

An EU push for China to sign up to EU council and ratified by the European parliament, a process that may not begin until the second half of 2021. It will not have to be adopted by EU national parliaments, however.

The agreement has been under negotiation since 2014 and the two sides agreed last year to conclude it by the end of 2020. Germany, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency until Thursday and has substantial corporate interests in China, has pressed hard to meet the deadline.
 

supercat

Major
Blommberg's take on the EU-China Comprehensive Agreement on Investment:

EU Governments Signal Support to Complete China Investment Deal​

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EU member-country envoys urged the European Commission, the bloc’s executive arm, to complete negotiations with the Chinese government within days, according to a European official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the deliberations in Brussels were confidential. Another official said the commission could announce a draft deal imminently.
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This deal makes any "Transatlantic Alliance" against China a complete joke.
 

NiuBiDaRen

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All EU member states back China investment deal, sources say​

  • Agreement ‘could be reached’ this week following movement on major sticking point
  • No country had raised ‘stop sign’ clearing way for political endorsement, diplomat says
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China and the European Union could reach a landmark investment deal this week, with the 27 countries in the trade bloc unanimously approving the agreement despite earlier reservations, the South China Morning Post has learned.
 

horse

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That is warfare.

It is what Clauswhich said.

When an attack or campaign is started, the longer it goes the advance, the weaker it becomes. Eventually the supply lines becomes stretched or you run out of ammo.

Look at what happened. The United States started a trade war with China. The United States started a Huawei 5G war worldwide. When that was not enough, it implemented a full ban of any sales to Huawei without permits. Then the United States later on banned SMIC semiconductors. Then the past two weeks the United States banned sales of items to companies like DJI.

This is the point.

When the opponent has it attack go on for this long, inevitably that loses strength.

Consider what happened these past two months:-

*** China signs the RCEP
*** China goes on with the vaccine diplomacy a big success
*** no one bans Huawei especially the Germans
*** now they with sign the CAI between the EU and China

That is the point.

There is no American push-back or resistance to these counter attacks from the Chinese side. They the USA exhausted themselves with their previous campaigns of trade war tech war etc.

So the Chinese finally launched a counter attack, and it was freaking devastating.

This freaking changes the world.

Chairman Mao loved reading Clauswhich.

:p
 

B.I.B.

Captain
Yes it's more important that Australia gets to sell its coal and not save the environment. What a bunch of hypocrites.
I was watching Sky News Australia where a couple of commentators said the Chinese trade ban had not affected them financially as China had hoped. This was due to Covid restricting international travel, thus saving an outflow of 63billion. I guess they must have forgotten the big picture.
 

NiuBiDaRen

Brigadier
Registered Member
That is warfare.

It is what Clauswhich said.

When an attack or campaign is started, the longer it goes the advance, the weaker it becomes. Eventually the supply lines becomes stretched or you run out of ammo.

Look at what happened. The United States started a trade war with China. The United States started a Huawei 5G war worldwide. When that was not enough, it implemented a full ban of any sales to Huawei without permits. Then the United States later on banned SMIC semiconductors. Then the past two weeks the United States banned sales of items to companies like DJI.

This is the point.

When the opponent has it attack go on for this long, inevitably that loses strength.

Consider what happened these past two months:-

*** China signs the RCEP
*** China goes on with the vaccine diplomacy a big success
*** no one bans Huawei especially the Germans
*** now they with sign the CAI between the EU and China

That is the point.

There is no American push-back or resistance to these counter attacks from the Chinese side. They the USA exhausted themselves with their previous campaigns of trade war tech war etc.

So the Chinese finally launched a counter attack, and it was freaking devastating.

This freaking changes the world.

Chairman Mao loved reading Clauswhich.

:p
Well just as you wrote that, WSJ published an article

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which doesn't make sense because Germany unbanned Huawei and EU is about to sign an investment deal with China. Is WSJ trying to fool itself? Ah Q syndrome? And there's RCEP too. Where's the pushback? Africa? Latin America? I just don't see it.
 
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