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NiuBiDaRen

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China’s Credit Growth Accelerates in November Amid Economic Recovery
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  • Aggregate financing rose to 2.13 trillion yuan ($326 billion) last month, the People’s Bank of China said Wednesday, higher than the median forecast of 2.08 trillion yuan
  • Financial institutions offered 1.43 trillion yuan of new loans in the month, slightly lower than estimates of 1.45 trillion yuan
 
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Nobonita Barua

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Couldn't get my eyes over this:

.."China would create a digital currency system that can be entirely out of reach for U.S. authorities, where the U.S.’s financial sanctions would have little effects."..
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How long do you all think this will take? Any experts or enthusiasts around?
I have been screaming about that for a year now. I don't think digitizing yuan itself within China will take time.

If China can convince Iran to sell oil,gas in Yuan & can get Russia on board, max 2-3 years for full implementation for cross border payment.
 

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Couldn't get my eyes over this:

.."China would create a digital currency system that can be entirely out of reach for U.S. authorities, where the U.S.’s financial sanctions would have little effects."..
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How long do you all think this will take? Any experts or enthusiasts around?
Stop! Let's back up a bit, all ... the ... way ... to ... the ... stone ... age!

Suppose I caught a rabbit, and cooked it, and you have some berries. You give me some berries and I give you a quarter of the rabbit to eat. We made a trade of goods (or services), we did not use money, we barter.

Fast forward and society moves on. Gold and silver were used to settle trade too. They were used as a medium of exchange.

Fast forward some more, and fiat currency was used to settle trade.

Fast forward to today, the way the global economic system works, it is based on trade, and the US Dollar is/was the linchpin for this world wide trade.

What we must be aware of in a general sense, is the role of the banks and the SWIFT system in this world wide trade. I do not know how it works specifically, you probably need to have a job on the inside, but all we need to know is that US Dollar transactions world wide, go through SWIFT and that goes through the US banking system, (which the CIA has its eyes on). One way of thinking about it, is that this is the plumbing. The money travels from a company, to the local bank, to SWIFT, then the US banking system.

Since the US banking system is under US jurisdiction, then they can do anything they want.

We can see how a digitized currency, or any currency that is not USD, or barter trade, can exist outside the plumbing for USD transactions.

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Huawei probably still does most of its international business in USD, but the Americans probably will not sanction that.

This is where the story gets complicated!

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NiuBiDaRen

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The U.S. is in danger of losing its dominant leadership position in global financial services.

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Shanghai ranked first among global exchanges for number of IPOs and capital raised through the first nine months of 2020. These IPOs show that major fundraising can take place outside the U.S. financial ecosystem.

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The U.S. is in danger of losing its dominant leadership position in global financial services.

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Shanghai ranked first among global exchanges for number of IPOs and capital raised through the first nine months of 2020. These IPOs show that major fundraising can take place outside the U.S. financial ecosystem.

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Hi Crang,

WSJ fear mongering as always. I support 100% Kevin Rudd effort to investigate Rupert Murdoch and his media empire for spreading false news. It's all conjecture, what China is doing is exercising it's sovereignty, to circumvent any threat of blackmail or currency sanction. It's not about domination, its about the ability to freely trade with anybody.
 
Couldn't get my eyes over this:

.."China would create a digital currency system that can be entirely out of reach for U.S. authorities, where the U.S.’s financial sanctions would have little effects."..
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How long do you all think this will take? Any experts or enthusiasts around?

Should be good for everyone except the US and lackey Australia. Couldn't happen soon enough.
 
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