Chinese Aviation Industry

On May 23, 2012, Xian signs contract to sell 3 unit of MA-60 to a EUROPEAN COUNTRY Ukraine
Mars RK, a small Ukrainian Airline.


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http://www.avic.com.cn/cn/xwzx/cydt/378041.shtml

月23日,西飞国际与乌克兰MARS航空公司在西安阎良签署3架“新舟”60飞机购机合同。这是西飞国际首次与欧洲客户签署“新舟”60飞机购机合同。乌克兰MARS航空公司是一家私营股份制公司,目前运营的主要机型有萨伯340涡桨支线飞机及奥古斯塔直升机。
 

kroko

Senior Member
Dont know if its true. Russia and china planning to develop new plane based on the Il-96, a soviet-era plane. Agreement will be signed next week during V. Putin trip to china.

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montyp165

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Dont know if its true. Russia and china planning to develop new plane based on the Il-96, a soviet-era plane. Agreement will be signed next week during V. Putin trip to china.

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The Russians stopped producing the passenger version of the Il-96 due to cost issues and lack of market penetration, so cooperation on a follow-on would make sense in terms of cost reduction and increasing production numbers.
 

hmmwv

Junior Member
Currently COMAC has the C929 and 939 planned but actual development won't start for another few years, and I very much doubt either will have a four engine configuration.
 

Preux

Junior Member
A cursory search on the COMAC site reveals no reference to the follow on 9x9s, every source on them appear to be little more than guesses and speculation.

I have no doubt COMAC has some sort of roadmap but I don't think anybody really has a clue what they are.
 
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AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
We'll see if it happens. Aren't there a lot of deals like this and we never see anything of it? Maybe if Putin is signing that gives it something extra. But look at that joint helicopter deal with that model we've seen... There's nothing but CGI/photoshop images of it. I can see the military use but for international commercial airline business? The Russians alone don't have a good reputation let alone issues with Chinese quality. I can only see it as the Russians wanting a piece of China's commerical airline business which is the savior of why Chinese quality issues aren't an issue. China's the market which is also why I read the US and Europe are conspiring to stop China's own domestic airline industry by complaining it's government subsidized. China starts building and buying its own airliners and Boeing and Airbus commercial airline business starts a downward spiral.
 

kroko

Senior Member
China's the market which is also why I read the US and Europe are conspiring to stop China's own domestic airline industry by complaining it's government subsidized. China starts building and buying its own airliners and Boeing and Airbus commercial airline business starts a downward spiral.

Well they didnt complain about russia subsidizing sukhoi. Why would they complain about comac ? I even saw somewhere on the internet that boeing cooperated something with comac.

Besides, complaining would lead to nowhere. It will take many many years for comac to develop a product that is safe and competitive enough to be able to get sales in US/EU airline markets. So it would be really pointless.
 

hmmwv

Junior Member
Boeing and Comac signed an agreement this March to collaborate on R&D, after all AVIC makes a lot of components for Boeing and Airbus jets. But Comac has an even higher level of collaboration with Bombardier, which is designing the C-series airliner so it shares component commonality with the C919. Right now AVIC Commercial Aircraft Engine also has high level cooperation with CFM and GE to develop the new CJ series engine for C919.
 
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