Chinese air to air missiles

Blitzo

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NATO codes/names for Chinese AAMs.
PL-10 - CH-AA-9
PL-12 - CH-AA-7 "Adze"
PL-15 - CH-AA-10 "Abaddon"
PL-17 - CH-AA-12 "Auger"

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To my understanding at minimum, the PL-15 NATO name is not accurate, based on what an active USN fighter pilot has written before.

I suspect the IISS is making a few assumptions.
 

Totoro

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Would that imply that NATO code names are still a thing but that they are now secret?
That would certainly be strange, as even during the cold war i am not sure that soviet weapons had secret nato designations.
 

Deino

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To my understanding at minimum, the PL-15 NATO name is not accurate, based on what an active USN fighter pilot has written before.

I suspect the IISS is making a few assumptions.

do you know what name it is?
 

FirebirdFan

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To my understanding at minimum, the PL-15 NATO name is not accurate, based on what an active USN fighter pilot has written before.

I suspect the IISS is making a few assumptions.
Hm, this pilot did not give true name of PL-15 then I assume?

Disregard if your reply to Deino was a reply to this question as well.
 

Blitzo

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Hm, this pilot did not give true name of PL-15 then I assume?

Disregard if your reply to Deino was a reply to this question as well.

The true name was not given, only that "Abaddon" is not its name.


Would that imply that NATO code names are still a thing but that they are now secret?
That would certainly be strange, as even during the cold war i am not sure that soviet weapons had secret nato designations.

My understanding is that it isn't necessarily secret, but it isn't shared openly or widely outside of their user communities (in this case, being the military staff), and some level of informal consensus to not share them unless it was first used openly by other sources.
 

by78

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An academic paper on a more efficient launch method for over-the-shoulder missile launch (i.e. hitting target behind the aircraft).

Abstract: In order to shorten the response time of over-the-shoulder launch of close-range combat missiles and realize the rapid strike of air-to-air missiles on rear targets in close-range combat, a method for rapid backward launch of air-to-air missiles is proposed, which utilizes the static instability of missiles at large/super-large angles of attack, and assists with jet direct force control and terminal active rudder deflection control. In order to study the influence of preset rudder deflection, jet direct force and terminal active rudder deflection control strategy in the new launch method proposed by the institute, a high-precision computational fluid dynamics/flight dynamics numerical simulation method of coupled active rudder deflection control strategy based on dynamic nested grids is developed. The numerical simulation results show that the proposed method can complete the rapid redirection of the missile within 1.53s and keep the attitude stable and controllable in the final stage of flip. The new method can shorten the redirection time of over-the-shoulder launch to about 1/10 of the traditional method.

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