China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

A.Man

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The yellowish color, we have been seeing on many test planes, is a cerium-enhanced e-coat paint or primer layer. E-coat is an emulsion of organic resins and de-ionized water, which is in a stable condition. The e-coat solution also comprises of some solvent and some ionic components.

The dark grey color now on Y-20 is the real primer. This color is for a relative dark color paint in the future. If Xifei uses a white color primer, the Y-20 would receive a light color skin in the future.
 

Deino

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The yellowish color, we have been seeing on many test planes, is a cerium-enhanced e-coat paint or primer layer. E-coat is an emulsion of organic resins and de-ionized water, which is in a stable condition. The e-coat solution also comprises of some solvent and some ionic components.

The dark grey color now on Y-20 is the real primer. This color is for a relative dark color paint in the future. If Xifei uses a white color primer, the Y-20 would receive a light color skin in the future.

So - just if I understood correctly - the yellow primer is the first layer and this strange grey the first real primer for a - at least I hope so - "nice" dark grey !??

Deino
 

Quickie

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The Y-20 chief designer was also the chief designer of the JH-7A.

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English.news.cn 2013-03-03 22:44:45


BEIJING, March 3 (Xinhua) -- China on Saturday completed two more ground slide tests for Y-20, its biggest home-grown transport aircraft, following its successful January maiden flight, the air freighter's chief designer said.

Tang Changhong, chief designer for Y-20, or Transport-20, revealed more details about the multi-function jumbo transport jet in an interview with Xinhua on the sidelines of the annual session of China's top political advisory body, which opened on Sunday afternoon.

"The successful test flight of Y-20 marks a milestone in China's aviation industry and we're moving a step closer toward building a strategic air power for the country," said Tang, who is a member of the 12th National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, the country's top political advisory body.

Following the latest tests at a center in west China, Tang said it took five years for Chinese designers to manufacture and test-fly the jumbo air freighter.

"Compared with heavy-lift transport aircraft developers in foreign countries, our development cycle is pretty fast," said Tang, who once served as the chief designer for China's fighter-bomber jet JH-7A.

Currently, large strategic air freighters in active service around the world include the Antonov An-225, the Ilyushin Il-76 and the Boeing C-17 Globemaster III.

According to the chief designer, the Y-20 has a traditional layout using tricycle landing gear and two 90-degree-deflecting wheels on the nose gear.

Tang noted the aircraft can be used in rescue relief efforts in earthquakes and other disasters, and will improve the


Chinese military's rapid deployment capabilities.

Tang believes the Y-20 will serve as China's jumbo transport aircraft "over a very long period of time" in the future.

The Ministry of Defense confirmed shortly after the successful test flight on Jan. 26 that the Y-20, mainly developed by the Xi'an Aircraft Industry (Group) Company Ltd., has the highest load-carrying capacity of 66 tonnes, a fuselage length of 47 meters, a wingspan of 45 meters and a height of 15 meters, and bears the maximum take-off weight of 200 tonnes.

In voluntarily releasing news about Y-20's test flights, Chinese aircraft designers have shown their confidence and greatly boosted military transparency, according to Tang.

"The development and testing of high-end military technology and equipment is in line with China's defense and security policy that is purely defensive in nature," he added.

The official codename of the aircraft is Kunpeng, named after a legendary bird in Chinese mythology that can fly thousands of miles.
 
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Deino

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Actually I simply think they play down Antonov's contribution a bit ... besides that here he is !
 

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Actually I simply think they play down Antonov's contribution a bit ... besides that here he is !

Deino, I don't think antonov contributed much. In fact, Y-20 resemble more of C-17 echoed my sentiment. If antonov plays a large part, I tell you y-20 will look more of IL-76.
 

SteelBird

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Deino, I don't think antonov contributed much. In fact, Y-20 resemble more of C-17 echoed my sentiment. If antonov plays a large part, I tell you y-20 will look more of IL-76.

My person opinion, since Y-20 is the first of its type, it's very hard if not impossible that China could design it without foreign help and also it's not logical that China did it alone while there are help available. Foreign helps should save time and cost. Then, I don't think China could get help from US. So, there are only two sources available; a direct help from Russia and indirect help from EU. China might get help from both. Just my two cents.
 
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Air Force Brat

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My person opinion, since Y-20 is the first of its type, it's very hard if not impossible that China could design it without foreign help and also it's not logical that China did it alone while there are help available. Foreign helps should save time and cost. Then, I don't China could get help from US. So, there are only two sources available; a direct help from Russia and indirect help from EU. China might get help from both. Just my two cents.

I read from one fairly official source that the wings and pylons are from Anotov, I certainly can't recall at the moment the source, but if I do I will post it? Air Force Brat
 
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