China's strategy in Korean peninsula

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More carrots for the DPRK from their only ally and all weather friend, the PRC. Trump is naive to think he could convince Xi to solve the NK problem for him.

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BEIJING -- China said Tuesday that it has invited North Korean officials to a forum on its regional economic development plan to be held in Beijing next week.

China will host the Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation on Sunday and Monday as it seeks to promote its initiative for building an economic belt linking Asia and Europe and even Africa through land and maritime silk roads.


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China's foreign ministry said that the conference is open to any country that would be on the same page with its "One Belt One Road" drive.

"North Korea will send its delegation to the forum and will do relevant activities," Geng Shuang, ministry spokesman, told a press briefing.

Kim Yong-jae, the North Korean minister of external economic relations, reportedly plans to lead the delegation.

Three South Korean officials, including Seoul's top envoy to China Kim Jang-soo, will attend the forum, according to the South Korean Embassy in Beijing.

The Chinese government is known to have sent invitations to all diplomatic missions in China.

China has invited leaders of major countries, but it did not do so to South Korea amid a diplomatic row over South Korea's deployment of an advanced US missile defense system. (Yonhap)
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AndrewS

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Richard Santos said:
No, it has a lot of fundamental geographic and demographic attributes which make it exceptional.

1. It is uniquely situated amongst any major nation such that it has no real landward geopolitical competitors, current or potential, and protected from any potential peer powers by oceanic distances.

2. It is the only major nation so situated that its access to the seas are not choked by geographic choke points.

3. it is the only developed, or for that matter, developing, country that is overendowed with arable land and still retain the capacity to support a large further increase in population. Therefore it is the only major developed country that faces no aging population crisis, and that retains the capacity to sustain significant economic growth rate over the next century. Currently there is one American for every 5 Chinese or Indian. Current population growth trends projects that in 100 years, there will be 6 Americans for every 10 Chinese or Indians.

4. It along with Russia and Brazil are the only major country with the geological potential for energy independence in the near future.

5. While its social and economic mobility is overhyped, it is still greater than those of any other major nation, and it has demonstrated the capacity to generate and profit from innovation greater than any other nation.

Of all the countries that had been great powers in the last 200 years, America is the only one that has fundamental reasons for being able remain so for the next 100 years.
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There are a number of errors in the analysis above. Please educate yourself before presenting opinion which is not backed by facts.

Point 3. Arable land is no longer the main determinant of being able to support large population. A wealthy population can import food.

Point 4. China is rushing full ahead in replacing coal, gas and oil with alternative energy sources. Those technologies will be commercially viable soon, and will mean energy independence for every nation in the world. That is the future which everyone can see.

Point 5a. Despite what you say, social and economic mobility in the US is inferior to most other developed nations.

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Point 5b. Despite what you say, it is China (not the USA) that now "generates and profits from innovation greater than any other nation. " See article below. Plus given the trajectory and plans, I expect that by 2025, China will have a larger GDP by any measure and will also be devoting a larger percentage to R&D as well.

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"While the United States is still at the top in total investment in research and development — spending $500 billion in 2015 —
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has made a startling finding: A couple of years ago, China quietly surpassed the U.S. in spending on the later stage of R&D that turns discoveries into commercial products. And at its current rate of spending, China will invest up to twice as much as the U.S., or $658 billion, by 2018 on this critical late-stage research."

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taxiya

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Blackstone said:
More carrots for the DPRK from their only ally and all weather friend, the PRC. Trump is naive to think he could convince Xi to solve the NK problem for him.

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Isn't carrot one of the two tools to solve a problem? I am sure China has also invited Japan (behind doors) even though the political/strategic relationships has been worse for years. No surprise NK is invited. We all know that China is good at separating (or combining) economic matters with politic/strategic matters.

Whether one can call Trump being naïve depends on whether Trump is aware of the different content of China's NK problem and US' NK problem. I think Trump is aware, therefor he is not trying to convince Xi (not his intension anyway).
 
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China tests new type of guided missile close to Korean peninsula
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Chinese rocket forces have conducted a combat test of a new type of missile in the Bohai Sea, according to a statement from the Information Bureau of China’s Ministry of National Defense.

The remarks were made Tuesday in response to media enquiry about a recent missile test.

The test in the Bohai Sea was conducted to “raise the operational capability of the armed forces and effectively respond to threats to national security,” the ministry said in a brief statement.

The test was conducted in accordance with the annual training plan to enhance the combat skills of the forces and their ability to handle threats to national security, the statement said.

“The test achieved the expected result,” said the statement, without disclosing the exact date.

The Bohai Sea is a body of water off the coasts of Tianjin municipality, Shandong, Hebei and Liaoning provinces.

The announcement came on the day that South Koreans elected left-leaning former human rights lawyer Moon Jae-In in a presidential election held after a scandal led to the impeachment of the country’s previous leader.

The test also comes as China, the United States and the Koreas are locked in a complex diplomatic spat over Pyongyang’s missile launches and potential new nuclear tests.
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delft

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Difference is Iran hasn't threatened to turn US into ash, and DPRK has. So, a treaty was reached with Iran on nuclear weapon development, but not with North Korea. The world might not revolve around American hegemony these days, but nations that threatens nuclear attacks on America deserve what's coming to them.
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DPRK doesn't threaten US except in the case of US aggression, just as Russia and China.
 
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delft

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Richard Santos said:
The fact remains the US with few exceptions, the US has usually perceived it to be advantageous to itself to support regimes generally less tyrannical than those that have tended to be favored by its main opponents.
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Iran 1953 - 1979, Guatemala 1954 - late '80's, South Korea 1945 - late '80's, South Vietnam 1955 - 1975, South Africa until late '80's, Cuba until 1959. Just some of the more blatant ones. The number of exceptions is pretty large.
 
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