China's strategy in Korean peninsula

plawolf

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Inst said:
Not the point; the reason Beijing fears THAAD is because it disables their nuclear deterrent. Cruise missiles don't travel fast enough to enable punishing first strikes before nukes knock out Chinese missiles in their silos.
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China doesn't fear THAAD, it is just extremely annoyed by it.

Cruise missiles are not the only weapons available. China has the world's largest and most accurate short and medium range ballistic missiles.

In the event of the detection of a full scale nuclear attack, THAAD will get glassed with saturation tactical nuclear SRBM and/or IRBMs, and still leave China time to fire off its big ICBMs in reply.

THAAD is place too close to China to be of much use in a real no-holds-barred fight, and that is not why the US pushed so hard to place it in SK.

Peacetime spying on China is the key reason for THAAD deployment.
 
SamuraiBlue

SamuraiBlue

Captain
plawolf said:
China doesn't fear THAAD, it is just extremely annoyed by it.

Cruise missiles are not the only weapons available. China has the world's largest and most accurate short and medium range ballistic missiles.

In the event of the detection of a full scale nuclear attack, THAAD will get glassed with saturation tactical nuclear SRBM and/or IRBMs, and still leave China time to fire off its big ICBMs in reply.

THAAD is place too close to China to be of much use in a real no-holds-barred fight, and that is not why the US pushed so hard to place it in SK.

Peacetime spying on China is the key reason for THAAD deployment.
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So why make such a fuss over it?
You talk about spying but it can only monitor air space higher than 15Km and this is basically already done with civilian radars through SK air traffic monitoring.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
THAAD in South Korea cannot stop Chinese ICBMs heading for the US. The most likely hit probability comes from ballistic missiles coming towards it and that ain't a sure thing. Chinese ICBMs heading for the US... not a chance.

The reason why China protests THAAD is because it's more likely to increase tensions and that inches closer to war. Just because some Americans show a disregard for the consequences towards their ally, South Korea, in itching to start a war with North Korea, it doesn't mean that everyone else has to be worse than Americans and they're begging for a war more. Some just don't want a war at all especially so the US can flex its muscles to show-off. Just remember how many said the strike on Syria was really a message to China. Yeah, they're so much of a sociopath that they gleefully proclaim the US killed people in another country that has nothing to do with the North Korea situation just to send a message to China. And recently I read an article of how cowardly China is because they're punishing South Korea, not with killing people, but with boycotts just to send a message to the US about THAAD. They're devils if it's true and shows how much of a coward they are killing people in a country that can't strike back just to send a message to a country that can retaliate.

It's funny how the alarmists when Trump was elected said because Trump and Putin were so cozy that they were going to gangbang China together. Now that they've been proven to be soooo wrong, they've moved on to being alarmists over North Korea. If like Trump said that the US can take on North Korea on their own, why hasn't it happened? The chicken hawks climaxing on the US to initiate a pre-emptive strike... if it's so easy, why don't they do it! People who want a war without thinking about the devastation and lives lost on their ally South Korea alone at the start of a war wouldn't hesitate. Yet they are? It's called fake bravado. The US will be the villain if the US starts the war. If this is China's problem as many pundits say. then why is the US bothering? It's all scare tactics to actually get everyone else to do something instead while for the US it costs the least.
 
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SamuraiBlue

SamuraiBlue

Captain
jobjed said:
The radar is upgradable with much higher range. Additionally, forward deployment of ABM sets a poor precedent as far as MAD is concerned.
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It really doesn't matter how strong you broadcast, It's more than 100Km from PRC borders so the line of sight over the horizon is that much higher. As for ICBMs just don't shoot them.
 
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jobjed

Captain
SamuraiBlue said:
It really doesn't matter how strong you broadcast, It's more than 100Km from PRC borders so the line of sight over the horizon is that much higher.
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Re-entry vehicle tests conducted in Inner Mongolia are at high altitude, perfectly within line-of-sight of THAAD radars.

As for ICBMs just don't shoot them.
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That has nothing to do with the THAAD argument. When ICBMs are getting launched, THAAD can't do anything. The issue at hand is the intelligence gathered by long-range radars about Chinese RVs that can make future ABM systems more capable, thus upsetting the MAD equilibrium.
 
Equation

Equation

Lieutenant General
SamuraiBlue said:
So why make such a fuss over it?
You talk about spying but it can only monitor air space higher than 15Km and this is basically already done with civilian radars through SK air traffic monitoring.
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Because the US is ONLY using the THAAD excuse to try to counter China's artificial island build up that they can't stop. It's a tit for tat geopolitical gamesmanship.
 
SamuraiBlue

SamuraiBlue

Captain
Equation said:
Because the US is ONLY using the THAAD excuse to try to counter China's artificial island build up that they can't stop. It's a tit for tat geopolitical gamesmanship.
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The less the reason to complain then. As you say it's tit for tat which PRC started.
 
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antiterror13

Brigadier
SamuraiBlue said:
The less the reason to complain then. As you say it's tit for tat which PRC started.
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you need to learn more of Geopolitic ... google may be a good starting point ... if you really keen book from Henry Kissinger is the best one "Diplomacy" .. hard to read ... I am sure you are smart enough to digest it :p .. trust me it is way way better than biased Japanese textbooks with hidden agenda .. and it will make you more mature and wiser ;)
 
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