China's strategy in Afghanistan.

Gatekeeper said:

I have heard of Saudis called many things, but liberal is not one of them.

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Arnies said:

Burqa is not in Arab culture since you won't see Burqa anywhere there is no Burqa but what you mean is Niqab that is completely different thing.



When you compare the two the Saudis by far are more liberal.. Hack there are even some American concerts taking place nowadays in KSA that is atleast 100 years away in Iran.. And as I mentioned earlier the rules is lax in KSA because it is a monarchy but Iran is a clergy country hence the clerics take this much more serious in applying the laws

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I've been to both KSA and Iran. I'd pick Iran any day of the week. Few places I've been have ever truly un-nerved me, but KSA was one of them. I was in Jeddah which is widely seen as the "least worst" part of KSA, and it creeped me the f*ck out. Iran, it felt like a pretty ordinary mid-eastern country. It didn't feel a world a way from eastern Turkey, or from Azerbaijan. As a western woman, I found Iran way easier to navigate and didn't feel out of my element. In KSA, I felt acutely out of place and loathed my time there - and I was *way* more afraid of their "liberal" authorities.

FireyCross said:

I've been to both KSA and Iran. I'd pick Iran any day of the week. Few places I've been have ever truly un-nerved me, but KSA was one of them. I was in Jeddah which is widely seen as the "least worst" part of KSA, and it creeped me the f*ck out. Iran, it felt like a pretty ordinary mid-eastern country. It didn't feel a world a way from eastern Turkey, or from Azerbaijan. As a western woman, I found Iran way easier to navigate and didn't feel out of my element. In KSA, I felt acutely out of place and loathed my time there - and I was *way* more afraid of their "liberal" authorities.

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What exactly had you so creeped out?

FireyCross said:

I've been to both KSA and Iran. I'd pick Iran any day of the week.

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Completely agree with you. KSA is just flat out dystopian. The only way I have been able to characterize it to people is that it feels like the Palestinian territories, except with (oil) money. I think that its because - aside from oil and some basic businesses, there is no real industry or commerce going on. Iran feels like a vibrant place where people are trying to build things.

KSA is going to tear itself apart when the oil is gone.

This basic commerce and an economy is what was just starting to emerge in Afghanistan and would have given the country hope. But that hope is dead.

FireyCross said:

I've been to both KSA and Iran. I'd pick Iran any day of the week. Few places I've been have ever truly un-nerved me, but KSA was one of them. I was in Jeddah which is widely seen as the "least worst" part of KSA, and it creeped me the f*ck out. Iran, it felt like a pretty ordinary mid-eastern country. It didn't feel a world a way from eastern Turkey, or from Azerbaijan. As a western woman, I found Iran way easier to navigate and didn't feel out of my element. In KSA, I felt acutely out of place and loathed my time there - and I was *way* more afraid of their "liberal" authorities.

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Well that is only you and each to it's own I guess. I have been to both countries and to be honest there are less than 100 westerners in Iran whereas there are almost 300k in KSA living there the difference is like day and night..

In Any case Iran is the past and KSA is the future model for humanity as it is making huge advancements. The Saudi Economy will not falter away as some like to claim it here but in fact increase. Linking a city to the suez-canal will be huge and not only that a city that will change mankind forever because of the way it is build ''The Line''

By the way Neom is and will gonna become the biggest project in human history and will change the course of history because it will become the first futuristic city with sustainable means

This is the first time I have ever head of KSA being described as the future of anything. Jai Saud?!

plawolf said:

This is the first time I have ever head of KSA being described as the future of anything. Hai Saud?!

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I know right.. But times certainly do change

Bellum_Romanum said:

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This was a great video...

Chinese State Councillor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi told U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken in a phone call on Sunday that the international community should engage with Afghanistan's new Taliban rulers and "positively guide" them, China's foreign ministry said.